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AW: Comment #24 - Evaluating Templates with no content

From: Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:18:25 +0200
To: "'Vivienne CONWAY'" <v.conway@ecu.edu.au>, "'Shadi Abou-Zahra'" <shadi@w3.org>, "'Eval TF'" <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
Cc: "'Eric Velleman'" <E.Velleman@bartimeus.nl>
Message-ID: <50354c96.ce05cc0a.21c0.2613@mx.google.com>
Hi all,

I also think that evaluating templates is important because of the reasons
Vivienne mentioned in her mail. I also think that developers needs a
feedback about the WCAG-conformance of the templates. I therefore concur a
section about evaluation of templates as special case of our methodology.



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Vivienne CONWAY [mailto:v.conway@ecu.edu.au]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. August 2012 13:55
> An: Shadi Abou-Zahra; Eval TF
> Cc: Eric Velleman
> Betreff: Comment #24 - Evaluating Templates with no content
> Hi all
> I thought I'd try to address some ideas about templates with no
> content.
> In comment #24, Detlev mentioned that he "did not see how one woudl
> evaluate the template on its own, instead of a particular instance with
> all content rendered as web page."
> I've just been asked to evaluate a set of templates before they have
> content added so that the developer can check the accessibility of them
> before content is added and might have to be removed again for a re-do
> of the page.  This does happen quite a lot, and we are also asked to
> have our user testers look at sets of templates before content is added
> as well.
> I think that as we're continually advocating that accessibility should
> involved early in the development of websites, and then at every stage
> of the life cycle of the website, we should see this as a good thing.
> A developer designs a template for the client, and then makes sure that
> this template is accessible.
> My only concern is that this may not really relate to the methodology
> as we're talking about complete websites, and not single pages or
> templates.  However, we are pitching the methodology as being relevant
> for developers etc. also.  Any thoughts?
> Regards
> Vivienne L. Conway, B.IT(Hons), MACS CT, AALIA(cs)
> PhD Candidate & Sessional Lecturer, Edith Cowan University, Perth, W.A.
> Director, Web Key IT Pty Ltd.
> v.conway@ecu.edu.au
> v.conway@webkeyit.com
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> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra [shadi@w3.org]
> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012 6:34 PM
> To: Eval TF
> Cc: Eric Velleman
> Subject: [important] closed and open comments with actions
> Dear Eval TF,
> As a recap, please see the following actions for this week:
> # Comments from Public Review (WD 27 March)
>   - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/comments>
>   - There were no comments on this disposition of comments from Eval TF
> in the survey of 7 August 2012; All comments have been closed now.
>   - *ACTION:* Let us know immediately if you have objections.
> # Comments from Eval TF Review (ED 30 July)
>   - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/comments-20120730>
>   - Proposed resolutions available are for your review for all comments
> except #24, #29, and #30, and an on-going discussion on comment #32.
>   - *ACTION:* Review this disposition of comments by _today_.
> # Comments from WCAG WG Review (ED 30 July)
>   - <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-
> evaltf/2012Aug/0034>
>   - Editors working on proposed resolutions for these comments; let us
> know any comments or thoughts you may have on it as well.
>   - *ACTION:* Read the WCAG WG comments before the next call.
> Regards,
>    Shadi
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> Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
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