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Re: Comments on Target Audience - websites

From: Michael S Elledge <elledge@msu.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:36:43 -0400
Message-ID: <4E7B8E4B.1080001@msu.edu>
To: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
Hi Katie (and Shadi)--

This raises an issue about scope (and relates to Amy Chen's question in 
today's meeting). A great number of applications are not delivered 
through common user agents (such as Firefox or Internet Explorer). 
Instead, they are server-driven, non-html applications that have their 
own user interface.

This is particularly true for business applications produced by 
companies like Oracle, SAP and IBM. Testing those type of applications 
requires a methodology different from those delivered through a browser 
like Firefox or IE).

How do we address those types of applications? Or do they fall within 
the definition of server-side scripting?

Mike

On 9/22/2011 12:31 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea wrote:
> Good point Shadi,
>
> But I would look to ATAG and UAAG definitions as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra<shadi@w3.org>
>> Sent: Sep 22, 2011 12:12 PM
>> To: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Comments on Target Audience - websites
>>
>> I think WCAG 2.0 defines "web pages" but not "websites", which is why
>> attempted to provide a definition for our use:
>>
>> - A coherent collection of one or more related web pages that together
>> provide common use or functionality. It includes static web pages,
>> dynamically generated web pages (aka CMS-driven), and web applications
>> (aka client-side scripting).
>>
>> This definition will probably still need a lot more work (for example to
>> remove the recursion in it) but I hope it covers what we all mean.
>>
>> Best,
>>    Shadi
>>
>>
>> On 22.9.2011 17:41, Michael S Elledge wrote:
>>> That's a good point, Katie. Thanks for pointing it out.
>>>
>>> Should we include "websites" in our glossary, then, in case other people
>>> are confused?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 9/22/2011 11:27 AM, Katie Haritos-Shea wrote:
>>>> Concerning the second issue "websites" to "websites and web-delivered
>>>> applications".........
>>>>
>>>> I understand why this is being suggested, however, WCAG has a
>>>> definition of "websites" that covers all kinds of web content. WCAG is
>>>> web CONTENT accessibility guidelines, not the HTML accessibility
>>>> guidelines.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents.............:-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Michael S Elledge<elledge@msu.edu>
>>>>> Sent: Sep 22, 2011 11:06 AM
>>>>> To: "public-wai-evaltf@w3.org"<public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
>>>>> Subject: Comments on Target Audience
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone--
>>>>>
>>>>> We may want to either revise a current use scenario or add a new one
>>>>> that includes "vendors or organizations wishing to evaluate websites"
>>>>> since I don't see a reference that would relate to companies doing this
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I would propose that we revise wording from "websites" to
>>>>> "websites and web-delivered applications" since part of WCAG 2.0's
>>>>> intent is to be technology-agnostic, and websites may be interpreted as
>>>>> html-based content.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>> * katie *
>>>>
>>>> Katie Haritos-Shea
>>>> Section 508 Technical Policy Analyst
>>>>
>>>> 703-371-5545
>>>>
>>>> People may forget exactly what it was that you said or did,
>>>> but they will never forget how you made them feel.......
>>>>
>>>
>> -- 
>> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
>> Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office
>> Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
>> Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
>>
>
> * katie *
>
> Katie Haritos-Shea
> Section 508 Technical Policy Analyst
>
> 703-371-5545
>
> People may forget exactly what it was that you said or did,
> but they will never forget how you made them feel.......
>
>
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