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"website" vs "web content" vs other (was Re: Short name for Methodology)

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:15:20 +0200
Message-ID: <4E9C2A68.4030305@w3.org>
To: Detlev Fischer <fischer@dias.de>
CC: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
Dear Detlev, All,

On 17.10.2011 10:15, Detlev Fischer wrote:
> I have now fully caught up with the discussion of the term "website" and
> I realise it can be (or has been) defined to include web apps etc.

Correct:
  - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/methodology-reqs/#website>


> Still, since the term "website" has been avoided in the title of WCAG
> and also carries connotations of a traditional hierachical site, ist
> seems more congenial to me to use "Web content" instead (even if it
> makes the acronym still thornier).

It is not about the acronym but rather about the scope of WCAG versus 
that of the Methodology. Web content is used to build websites. WCAG 
applies to any web content while our Methodology is limited to websites.

I think we should either use the term "website" to denote static and 
dynamic web pages, web applications, intranets, mobile sites, etc, or 
come up with another term that applies to websites in their entirety.

Regards,
   Shadi


> Detlev
>
> Am 17.10.2011 08:40, schrieb kvotis@iti.gr:
>> Hello everyone
>>
>> i aggree with the following comment of Detlev and this was also my
>> comment
>> to a previous mail. I cannot understand why we are refereeing only to
>> Websites. I think that we need a more general term including also Web
>> applications, Mobile Web applications,etc...
>>
>> regards
>>
>> kostas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> back from holidays, I am trying to catch up with discussions now.
>>>
>>> I do not mind WAEM even though I do not think it is particularly easy
>>> to pronounce (other then spelling out double-U - E - A - M).
>>>
>>> I have some concern regarding the W for "website", as in the current
>>> full title
>>> "Website Accessibility Evaluation Methodology". The "WC" of WCAG
>>> sounds a lot more general than the term "website". This also relates
>>> to the important comments by Aaron Leventhal regarding the scope of
>>> the methodology, tool independence, and the possible need to cover
>>> different web content and UA scenarios.
>>>
>>> Is what we develop here focused on websites and not on things like web
>>> apps for mobile UAs? If we want to be as general as WCAG we might need
>>> to change the full name of the methodology and accordingly, the acronym.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Detlev
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Zitat von "Velleman, Eric"<evelleman@bartimeus.nl>:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> We decided in the call to discuss the short name in the list. Below
>>>> are some short names from the discussions we had sofar and a
>>>> proposed shortlist of requirements:
>>>>
>>>> Requirements for a short name:
>>>> - It should be short
>>>> - Easy to pronounce
>>>> - Clear to all what it means (selfexplanatory)
>>>> - Be about the methodology
>>>>
>>>> Shortnames (Make your choice or add new ones):
>>>> - SiteAccess
>>>> - WCAG-Method
>>>> - WCAG-EM
>>>> - WAEM (really using the title)
>>>> - WCAG-Check
>>>> - AccessSite
>>>> - WCAG-Site
>>>> - AccessCheck
>>>> - SiteCheck
>>>> - CheckSite
>>>> - WAMBAM
>>>> - WAME
>>>> - MCEWA
>>>> - CEWA
>>>> - CEW2WCAG2
>>>> - UWEM
>>>> - SITE
>>>> - MAWA
>>>> - MDWC
>>>> - EWAMAC
>>>> - EMAWC
>>>> - WEM
>>>>
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office
Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG)
Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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