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RE: updated expand/collapse functionality for review

From: Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <emmanuelle@sidar.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:00:55 +0100
To: "'Shadi Abou-Zahra'" <shadi@w3.org>, "'EOWG'" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
Cc: "'BAD TF'" <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>, "'Artur Ortega'" <ortega@yahoo-inc.com>, "'Sylvie Duchateau'" <sylvie.duchateau@snv.jussieu.fr>, "'Jennifer Sutton'" <jsuttondc@gmail.com>, "'Wilco Fiers'" <wfiers@bartimeus.nl>, "'Liam McGee'" <liam.mcgee@communis.co.uk>, "'Ian Pouncey'" <w3c@ipouncey.co.uk>, "'Michael Stenitzer'" <stenitzer@wienfluss.net>
Message-ID: <003101cbde73$2ce79190$86b6b4b0$@sidar.org>
Dear Shadi and all:

#1. Overall functionality

  - are the "Show contents of this section" links within the text good or
should we only use headings for expand/collapse functionality?
It's fine as well, since the user can view a short introduction before
expanding the content. However, if the functionality of expansion was in the
title, he would have to fully expand in order to discover whether or not
interests him to read on.

  - is placement of expand/collapse buttons (visually icons) on <h3>s good
or should we revert to using them on the <h2>s?
It's fine that way. But I think we must change the name, because it leads to
confusion. If each h2 is a section, the h3 are the subsections. Therefore
the text should read: "Related Subsections within this resource" or "Related
resource within this section".

  - placement of "expand all" / "collapse all" buttons before or after the
table of contents?
It's fine that way. Before the table of contents.

#3. Visual design
- suggestions for any of the buttons/links styling is welcome
The bullets (symbols) from the list of contents must be different. The
current lead to confusion since the user believe that the contents will be
displayed below the link.

  - slight differences appear on different browsers; would be great if
someone can look at the CSS and propose improvements
I tested the page under Windows Vista, with browsers:
- Firefox 03/06/1915 = Good
- Safari 5.0.3 = Good
- Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.19019 = Good
- Opera 11.01 = Fatal 
In Opera, the link "Show contents" disappears completely, and drop "Related
sections ..." only the icon appears. Moreover, none of the buttons work.

Another important issue that occurs on that page and other pages on the
subsite of the WAI is that the links have the same color of the headers.
This leads to confusion. Links should be clearly distinguishable from the
rest of contents. Only when a header is also a link must have the same color
as them.

I hope this can be useful,
Emmanuelle

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Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo
Directora de la Fundación Sidar
Coordinadora del Seminario SIDAR
www.sidar.org
email: coordina@sidar.org / emmanuelle@sidar.org



-----Mensaje original-----
De: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] En nombre
de Shadi Abou-Zahra
Enviado el: miércoles, 09 de marzo de 2011 12:14
Para: EOWG
CC: BAD TF; Artur Ortega; Sylvie Duchateau; Jennifer Sutton; Wilco Fiers;
Liam McGee; Ian Pouncey; Michael Stenitzer
Asunto: updated expand/collapse functionality for review

Dear EOWG, contributors, and potentially interested contributors, :)

Please find a test page with updated expand/collapse functionality:
  - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/2009/excol.html>


In preparation for this week's EOWG discussion we would like to get your
feedback on the following:

#1. Overall functionality
  - are the "Show contents of this section" links within the text good or
should we only use headings for expand/collapse functionality?
  - is placement of expand/collapse buttons (visually icons) on <h3>s good
or should we revert to using them on the <h2>s?
  - placement of "expand all" / "collapse all" buttons before or after the
table of contents?
  - other thoughts or suggestions?


#2. Screen-reader usability
  - the screen-reader buffer should now update well across different
configurations -- please confirm
  - of we keep "Show contents of this section" function, should these remain
as links or be changed to buttons?
  - other thoughts or suggestions?


#3. Visual design
  - suggestions for any of the buttons/links styling is welcome
  - note: the current styling for "Show contents of this section" is
temporary and suggestions for updated styling is welcome
  - slight differences appear on different browsers; would be great if
someone can look at the CSS and propose improvements


Best,
   Shadi

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Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ |
   WAI International Program Office Activity Lead   |
  W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
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