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Re: Use dark text on light background

From: Michael Stenitzer <stenitzer@wienfluss.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:23:17 +0100
Message-ID: <49953C05.1030008@wienfluss.net>
To: public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org
CC: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>

hi shadi,

ummm, you are right. my answer was a bit "compact" ;-)

- Use dark text on light background

* black on white is maybe not the optimum, but reasonably good from an
   accessibility point-of-view.
* we decided not to change the visual design too much for accessibility
   reasons - one intention was to show that you can make vissually
   appealing webdesigns accessible. in our daily business accessibility
   is accepted by our clients as an additional benefit as long as it does
   not interfere with there original intentions (eg. design).[1]
* we do have not that much text

- Ensure links change colour after visit
* i thought we picked out those WAI-AGE requirements backed by
   WCAG-techniques.

please, don't see me as an advocate against those two recommendations. i 
just thought they are not as important to include as others.

what do the others think?

my 2 cents, michael

[1] we are right now dealing with a client that says: it's much more 
important to have a website exactly looking like their brochures, 
usability is not important(tm). not even think about accessibility.


Shadi Abou-Zahra schrieb:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Why "no" and why to both? Here are some thoughts for "yes" but please 
> feel free to put counter arguments:
> 
> - Use dark text on light background
>  -- it is a WAI-AGE requirement
>  -- it is backed by WCAG 2.0
>  -- it seems like a good practice for usability
>  -- we can easily do it on the tickets page
> 
> - Ensure links change colour after visit
>  -- it is a WAI-AGE requirement
>  -- it seems like a good practice for usability
> 
> 
> PS: "ensure links change color after visit" is one of the requirements 
> that WAI-AGE plans to submit to WCAG WG as possible future techniques.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
>   Shadi
> 
> 
> Michael Stenitzer wrote:
>> two votes for "no" although i usualy like the second one (changing 
>> color for visited links) but i think it is more of an usability issue.
>>
>> /michael
>>
>> Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear group,
>>>
>>> In response to my action items [1], I looked for WCAG 2.0 Techniques 
>>> that match the following user requirements identified by the WAI-AGE 
>>> Literature Review:
>>>  - Use dark text on light background
>>>  - Ensure links change colour after visit
>>>
>>> For the first user requirement I found the following Advisory 
>>> Techniques that are *being planned* (they are currently listed as 
>>> "future links"):
>>>
>>> ## Under SC 1.4.3 and SC 1.4.6
>>> - Using colors that are composed predominantly of mid spectral 
>>> components for the light and spectral extremes (blue and red 
>>> wavelengths) for the dark
>>> - Using a light pastel background rather than a white background 
>>> behind black text to create sufficient but not extreme contrast
>>>
>>> I did not find relevant Techniques for the second requirement.
>>>
>>> Question for the group:
>>> - Should we implement the requirement "Use dark text on light 
>>> background" on the Demo?
>>> - If yes, then where? Some suggestions include the "Terms and 
>>> Conditions" or the "Buy tickets ..." areas on the tickets page.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Shadi
>>> [1] <http://www.w3.org/2009/02/11-badtf-minutes#ActionSummary>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 


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