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Re: [Fwd: Betr.: Re: [canceled] BAD TF teleconference on 7 April 2009]

From: Thomas Jewett <jewett@csulb.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:44:55 -0700
To: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>,BAD TF <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <web-24008818@remus.csulb.edu>
Hi, Shadi/Wilco/all,

Yes, there is a LOT of work in this for me, especially
the evaluation -- which in turn depends on the "before"
pages. I think it's important not to make the evaluation
look too complicated and not to imply that we have the
"right" way to evaluate a page. Thoughts?

I'll be in Illinois from tomorrow through Saturday, should
have a chance to visit with Jon Gunderson while I'm there.

Regards,

Tom

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:34:38 +0200
  Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Betr.: Re: [canceled] BAD TF teleconference on 
>7 April 2009
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:55:24 +0200
>From: Wilco Fiers <wfiers@bartimeus.nl>
> To: <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>
> CC: <shadi@w3.org>
> 
> Hello
> 
>First in responce to Marco:
> 1. I would probably remove them
> 2. Explicit, I agree
> 3. I agree, don't bother with both title and label, just 
>a label will do
> fine
> 
> 
> Second, I've completed the scripts for the inbetween 
>pages and uploaded
> it to:
> http://fiers.name/badtf/inbetween_script.zip
> 
> While working on this today I realised that we've missed 
>a rather big
> step in the inbetween pages. I have yet to see the 
>evaluation of the
> before pages. The text of the annotations will need to 
>be made based on
> those pages. Since the pages aren't done yet the 
>evaluation isn't done
> yet. And thus the annotation texts aren't done yet.
> 
> Unless I've missed something here, it sounds like there 
>might be some
> work in it for Tom aswell.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wilco
> 
> 
>>>> Marco Bertoni <m.bertoni@webprofession.com> 14-04-09 
>>>>15:21 >>>
> Hi everyone,
> 3 questions about the survey page, please tell me as 
>soon as you can if
> you agree or not.
> 
> 1) Considering that accesskeys are no longer required 
>for conformance to
> WCAG 2.0. Maybe we should remove them?
> 
>For example:
> 
> <ul class="skip">
> <li><a href="#startcontent" accesskey="0">Start of 
>demonstration
> (ALT-0)</a></li>
> <li><a href="#footer" accesskey="9">Demonstration 
>copyright notice
> (ALT-9)</a></li>
> </ul>
> 
> 
> 2)  There are some hybrid implicit/explicit labeling, 
>like in the
> following example:
> 
> <p class="input"><label for="liv_city"><input title="I 
>live in the city"
> type="radio" name="living" id="liv_city" 
>value="liv_city"
> tabindex="100"> In the city</label></p>
> 
> I think is better to use only explicit labeling to avoid 
>confusion:
> 
> <p class="input"><input title="I live in the city" 
>type="radio"
> name="living" id="liv_city" value="liv_city" 
>tabindex="100"> <label
> for="liv_city">In the city</label></p>
> 
> 
> 3) Moreover, using both the title attribute and the 
>label element is
> useless, so:
> 
> <p class="input"><input type="radio" name="living" 
>id="liv_city"
> value="liv_city" tabindex="100"> <label 
>for="liv_city">In the
> city</label></p>
> 
> 
> However, please let me know if there was a reason for 
>you to use hybrid
> labeling and title redundance in the first version of 
>the survey page.
> 
> Have a nice day,
> Marco
> 
> 
> 
> Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 3:36:32 PM, you wrote:
> 
>> Dear BAD TF,
> 
>> As per our recent discussion on the mailing list, we 
>>will not hold a 
>> meeting today. However, there is a time schedule and 
>>action items for 
>> each person to work on. Please assign time accordingly 
>>so that we can 
>> complete this project as soon as possible.
> 
>> Next teleconference call:
>>   - *Wednesday 22 April, 2009*
> 
>> Regards,
>>    Shadi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Marco Bertoni
> International Webmasters Association / The HTML Writers 
>Guild
> http://www.iwanet.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ |
>   WAI International Program Office Activity Lead   |
>  W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
> 
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