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Re: before/info breaks in modern browsers

From: Thomas Jewett <jewett@csulb.edu>
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:05:46 -0800
To: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>,Eric Eggert <mail@yatil.de>
Cc: public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org
Message-ID: <web-15984577@romulus.csulb.edu>

I would definitely not want to leave readers (for example,
my students) with knowingly bad markup in the improved
version. If we're trying to demo the effect of anything
that is incorrect, we should also show the gains -- and
this could be in maintenance as well as accessibility --
from doing it the right way.


On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:47:42 +0100
  Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:
> Hi Eric, all,
> This is actually a feature rather than a bug! We wanted 
>to show that bad markup may cause the content to break in 
>different browsers. However, it seems that this is not 
>clear enough -many people did not realize that we are 
>doing this intentionally to show something.
> The question is now: how can we better show that this is 
>a feature of the Demo? Maybe the "in-between pages" may 
>make it more clear. Also, the navigation proposed by 
>Michael may have some space for a small comment. Let's 
>discuss these and other ideas tomorrow...
> Best,
>   Shadi
> Eric Eggert wrote:
>> Hi all (again)!
>> The before articles page breaks horribly in modern 
>>browsers[1], we 
>> should correct that.
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/before/info
>> Image: 
>> This is because there are floats without any width are 
>>applied to the 
>> right side divs, which is not working according to the 
>>CSS2 spec.
>> Solution: Bring on the tables!
>> The issue (content is displayed in another order than in 
>>the markup) can 
>> be displayed with some tables, stacked upon each other. 
>>this wonít break 
>> in modern browsers, too.
>> Another solution would be to change the (inline) styles.
>> Regards, Eric
>> [1] Tested in Firefox and Safari. IE6 seems to render 
>>the design as 
>> intended, although I havenít tested heavily as Iím on a 
> -- 
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ |
>   WAI International Program Office Activity Lead   |
>  W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
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