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Re: [Fwd: Testing BAD "after" site]

From: Sylvie Duchateau <sylvie.duchateau@snv.jussieu.fr>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:06:28 +0200
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To: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Cc: public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org

Hello Shadi and all,

Following Shadi's requirement, please find below some comments after I have 
reviewed the "after" version of the Citylights site.
I hope this is useful. I am happy to help further if it is still needed.

Best regards


In general:
1. It is difficult to take apart what is WAI information, and what is a 
feature that has been implemented by the Web site designer to facilitate 
the accessibility of the site.
Example: "Screenreader Tips and other Accessibility Features". Is it a note 
from the task force or a note from the "citylights" Website designers. When 
you click on this link, you come to a page error. Just after the link, 
there is an information called (press enter), what is it intended for?
2. Selecting another page through the "quick menu" does not seem to work. 
When you select "facts" in the "quick menu" and click "go", an error page 
is displayed.
The quick menu is also not always the same. On the Home page, you have the 
choice between the 4 pages. The choice for home has additional information 
telling the user that Home is the current page. This informatin is not 
available on the quick menu of the other pages. In the quick menu of the 
page "news" the menu item "news" has disappeared from the quick menu.
* Home Page: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/after/index>

In the links to the diferent news: while looking at the code source, I 
noticed that all of them point to the "info" page. It could be easier to 
let them point to the beginning of the news, or to the detail of the news. 
So the user could directly access the story he wants to read.

Page structure: I don't understand the page structure after second heading 
1 entitled "elsewhere on the Web". The information belnging to that section 
talks again about information on the City: "more City Parks", and "free 

* News Article: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/after/info>
A heading informing that you are on the news page could be helpful. Which 
mechanisms have been implemented to help the user find out where he is?
In the datatable summarising the answers to the question on favourite 
organs a "summary" seems to be missing.
* Events Page: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/after/data>
The second data table is not easy to understand. There should be a 
description of the way columns and rows interact with each other.
* Survey Form: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/after/form>
It's a good idea to number the categories: general information, habits, 
traffic perception,....
It could also be useful to give each question a number: "where do you 
live?", "how many cars?".
I'm not sure that the mention (this a required field" should be written 
each time, as the designer writes, at the beginning of the form, that 
fields with a * are required fields. It makes the reading of the form with 
a screen reader much longer.
Otherwise, I have no remarks on the form.

I don't understand why following information is still on the page: 
"penguins" and "city park". It may loose the user to have such information.

As far as page structure is concerned: the headings of the different 
categories of the form "general information, habits...." are on the same 
level (level 2) as the headings after the form: "free penguins", "more city 

Other general remark: the pages are full with information. To make them 
more accessible, there should be less information on the page. 
Received on Tuesday, 11 April 2006 10:01:49 UTC

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