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Re: Can we get consensus on what incubation means (was: Re: WICG Incubation vs CSSWG Process)

From: David Singer <singer@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:50:14 +0100
Cc: Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net>, Chris Wilson <cwilso@google.com>, Brian Kardell <bkardell@gmail.com>, "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>
Message-id: <79A83F03-3BCF-4BC6-A52F-282D1D1378EE@mac.com>
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 21:56 , fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
> 
> On 01/09/2017 11:38 PM, Florian Rivoal wrote:
>> 
>> I am not suggesting that browsers merely notify us unilateraly that they are about to ship something, which is sort of what happens now when they let us know *at the end* of their "intent to ship" process. Rather, I'd like them to notify us that they are *considering* shipping something. The blink intent to ship process includes a mandatory step about evaluating whether shipping the feature would lead to compat / interop / standardization / future evolution difficulties. The CSSWG should be in the loop when that happens. This would be a way to trigger the discussion (which our documented practices allow for but rarely happens) in the WG about whether it is appropriate.
>> 
>> If the WG decides against shipping, hopefully we'll have reasons, and a reasonable vendor may follow our recommendation and invest in plugging the gaps in the spec first. If the vendor disagrees with the reasons, they are of course able to just ignore the WG and ship anyway, but that's the case under any possible process, since the W3C does not have authority over vendors.
>> 
>> Making it a systematic practice for vendors to get in touch with the WG when they are considering implementing or shipping something would help with prioritization, status flagging (see above), and avoiding accidental shipping of stuff that's not ready.
> 
> 100% Agreed.
> 

My company, and I suspect others, does not allow us to speak about what the company will or might or will not do in the future. Obviously we nonetheless try to engage the standards community in good faith, but expecting a general commitment to talk about plans is not something we’re allowed to agree to.

Dave Singer

singer@mac.com
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