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Re: Action-140: Obsoleting a recommendation, one more minor fix

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:44:25 +0200
Cc: W3C Advisory Board <ab@w3.org>, Revising W3C Process Community Group <public-w3process@w3.org>
Message-id: <5B3D20B3-D72F-4DAF-ABDE-0285B24D583F@apple.com>
To: Virginie Galindo <Virginie.Galindo@gemalto.com>

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 9:28 , GALINDO Virginie <Virginie.Galindo@gemalto.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
>  
> Thanks for that complete proposal.
> Note that in case B), the individual might not have access to the chair list – which is not public posting authorized, to my knowledge – and it should be clarified what ‘announcing to the public’ means.

I wanted to, but I must admit it’s not clear.  I think announcing to the W3C community means at least the chairs list, and I assume to the world at large means some sort of newsletter.

Note that we’re in a situation where we don’t know of anyone using it, so more targetted communication is hard.

> We may clarify this by suggesting individual to delegate to someone being able to post on the appropriate mailing list (W3C staff, I guess).

This is a formal step, so the team is taking it.

> I let you finding the perfect English wording for that J
>  
> Regards,
> Virginie
>  
>  
> From: singer@apple.com [mailto:singer@apple.com] 
> Sent: jeudi 23 juin 2016 14:01
> To: W3C Advisory Board <ab@w3.org>; Revising W3C Process Community Group <public-w3process@w3.org>
> Subject: Action-140: Obsoleting a recommendation, one more minor fix
>  
> The AB realized that we might, just possibly, make a mistake and obsolete something that we weren’t aware is actively used; or we might obsolete something and then later it starts getting traction and being used. It should be possible to reverse obsoletion, though we hope and expect that this will be rare.
> 
> The attached is a revision which adds the sentence:
> 
> "Obsoletion may be reversed, using the same process as for obsoleting a Recommendation. “
> 
> and then at the start of the two options, add that, viz.:
> 
> "The announcement:
> 
> must indicate that this is a Proposal to Rescind, or a proposal to Obsolete, or a proposal to reverse Obsoletion of, a Recommendation;”
> 
> Yes, I am aware that other parts of the text could be made more complex and more explicit about reversal, but I don’t think it’s worth it: we can surely work out what the intent of the text is in the rare case of reversal.
> 
> Yes, I am aware that we might end up with a case where, with the new knowledge, a decision to Obsolete would not pass, but the decision to reverse obsoletion also does not pass.  However, I think making the reversal process “reversal happens if it can be shown that obsoletion would have failed” is too complex to describe easily. I hope the community ‘does the right thing’ and we don’t get into this case.
> 
> 
>    
> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> 
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Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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