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Re: First Draft of W3C version of URL Spec

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:34:47 +0000 (UTC)
To: Chris Wilson <cwilso@google.com>
cc: Marcos Caceres <marcos@marcosc.com>, public-w3process <public-w3process@w3.org>, Daniel Appelquist <appelquist@gmail.com>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@gmail.com>, Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, jeff@w3.org
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1408290017150.2532@ps20323.dreamhostps.com>
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Chris Wilson wrote:
> >
> > The W3C has lost control of most of the web platform to the WHATWG 
> > already: all the fundamental web specs are firmly in WHATWG control 
> > (and it continues to hemorrhage specs to the WHATWG through it's 
> > refusal to modernize).
> 
> Then you have nothing to worry about.

It's not a matter of worrying, it's a matter of being insulted and 
offended by what feels like quite unnecessary hypocritical plagiarism.

If people started just copying W3C specs and republishing them, I would 
expect the W3C to be indignant. (I would expect this primarily because 
I've been told multiple times that the entire reason the W3C refuses to 
use open licenses is that they're concerned about this very eventuality.)

Yet the W3C turns around and repeatedly does this to WHATWG specs, even, 
now, trying to do it to specs that are already covered by patent 
commitments at the WHATWG:

   http://www.w3.org/community/whatwg/spec/82/commitments

The spec in question here:

 * has a stable snapshot
 * has patent coverage
 * has a way for anyone else to commit their patents [1]
 * is being actively maintained

What possible reason could there be to copy the spec now?

Until the WHATWG published this spec, the W3C never showed any interest in 
republishing the URI specs (quite the opposite -- we shopped this around 
to find another organisation to do the work for years and neither the W3C 
nor the IETF showed any interest). But as soon as the WHATWG published 
them, suddenly the W3C is all about publishing it.

[1] Just sign up here:
   http://www.w3.org/community/whatwg/spec/82/makecommitment

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