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Re: missing VAT identification number?

From: <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:46:31 +0100
Cc: W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
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To: Peter Krauss <ppkrauss@gmail.com>
Hi Peter,

On 19 Feb 2015, at 23:06, Peter Krauss <ppkrauss@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, it seems it is vatID  so, not missing (!)... Little problem in the use of very similar property, taxID
> perhaps an error in the text 
>     "or the CIF/NIF in Spain" 
> because CIF/NIF is a vatID  (not a taxID), 
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT_identification_number
> so, or the error is at the example, or the error is a kind of duplication, taxID~vatID.

vatID and taxID both come from the GoodRelations vocabulary integration. 

schema:vatID is a value-added-tax number as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT_identification_number.

schema:taxID is the generic tax identification number of an organization or person.

There are some contries that use the taxID, typically plus a prefix, also as the vatID.

I am by no means an expert of Spanish tax IDs, but as far as I understand from

    http://www.spanish-living.com/starting-business-spain/id-numbers

the situation in Spain is the following:

a) A person or company has a tax ID. This can be the

- NIF (Número de Identificación Fiscal) for individuals (the actual NIF can be a NIE (Número de Identidad de Extranjero) for foreigners or a DNI (Documento Nacional de Identidad) for Spanish nationals) or the

- CIF (Certificado de Identificación Fiscal) for companies.

NIF and CIF are clearly tax identifiers, not solely for the purpose of VAT processing, but also for other taxes and processes.

They would be used with schema:taxID.

b) The Spanish VAT is the NIF or CIF preceeded by the prefix "ES".

This value (including the prefix) would go into schema:vatID.

In conclusion I would hold that GoodRelations and schema.org properly handle tax and VAT IDs even in this case. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT_identification_number.


Best wishes / Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Martin Hepp

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On 19 Feb 2015, at 23:06, Peter Krauss <ppkrauss@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, it seems it is vatID  so, not missing (!)... Little problem in the use of very similar property, taxID
> perhaps an error in the text 
>     "or the CIF/NIF in Spain" 
> because CIF/NIF is a vatID  (not a taxID), 
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT_identification_number
> so, or the error is at the example, or the error is a kind of duplication, taxID~vatID.
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> 2015-02-19 19:28 GMT-02:00 Peter Krauss <ppkrauss@gmail.com>:
> In http://schema.org/Organization there are legalName, but no option to express the document where the legalName was registered, the "VAT-indentification-number oficial document" (VATIN)... And, when expressing the company's code, there are no property to express the VATIN number. 
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> Example, for Brazil the VATIN document is named "CNPJ", and for United Kingdom (UK)  VATIN document is named "VAT Reg No". 
> CNPJ is the official document for check company's legalName and number in Brazil;  VAT Reg No is the official document for check company's  legalName and number in UK.
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