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Re: schema:Bookmark ?

From: Jason Douglas <jasondouglas@google.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 05:26:57 +0000
Message-ID: <CAEiKvUCCPj13BB7G0_70-rDBLfR_prdhLeiB6YzN2MA6qd-Qnw@mail.gmail.com>
To: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
Cc: Sam Goto <goto@google.com>, W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
On Mon Sep 15 2014 at 3:57:07 PM ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <
perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote:

> On 09/15/2014 05:59 PM, Jason Douglas wrote:
> > Why is a BookmarkAction directly on a WebPage insufficient?  What
> > properties would Bookmark add?
>
> I don't see that much of a problem with
>
> WebPage --{potentialAction}--> BookmarkAction
>
> GET http://example.net
> {
>   "@id": "http://example.net",
>   "@type": "WebPage",
>   ...
>   "potentialAction": {
>     "@type": "BookmarkAction",
>     "actionStatus": "PotentialActionStatus"
>   }
> }
>
> even that IMO it doesn't make that much sense to announce such a
> common/basic Affordance...
>
>
> Now let's say I performed this action and the app of my choice, which i
> used to perform it, created first of all a resource which I consider a
> Bookmark, but also persisted an Action (one taken by me!) itself to show
> it in a stream of my activities
>
> GET https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/bookmarks/dfaf8a0fd9
> {
>   "@id": "https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/bookmarks/dfaf8a0fd9",
>   "@type": "Bookmark",
>   "about": "http://example.net",
>   "@reverse": {
>     "result": {
>       "@id": https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/activities/s0dfa091",
>       "@type": "BookmarkAction"
>     }
>   }
> }
>
> GET https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/activities/s0dfa091
> {
>   "@id": https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/activities/s0dfa091",
>   "@type": "BookmarkAction",
>   "object": "http://example.net",
>   "actionStatus": "CompletedActionStatus",
>   "startTime": "2014-01-04T10:30:00+01:00",
>   "endTime": "2014-01-04T10:30:00+01:00",
>   "result": "https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/bookmarks/dfaf8a0fd9"
> }
>
> In this case all 3 resources do (or can) reference each other
>
> Bookmark --{about}--> WebPage
> Bookmark <--{result}-- BookmarkAction // note *inverse*
>
> BookmarkAction --{object}--> WebPage
> BookmarkAction --{result}--> Bookmark
>
>
> And with some kind of pingback/trackback mechanism in place a webpage
> could also aggregate information about people bookmarking it:
>
> WebPage <--{about}-- [Bookmark] // i use [] to suggest *collection* of
> resources
>
>
> *possibly confusing part*
>
> WebPage --{potentialAction}--> BookmarkAction
>
> Action(potential) != Action(completed).
>
> I see Action(potential) acting as *sort of a template* from which
> everyone performing this action can create copies of it to persist and
> publish Action(completed) as a *distinct resource*!
>

Yup, that was the intent.  That's part of why we created urlTemplate as a
separate property from url (which sometimes gets used as @id).


>
>
>
> Also in practice list of bookmarks about this page might need to use
> something like hydra:Collection
> https://www.w3.org/community/hydra/wiki/Collection_Design
>
>
> I hope it helps a bit with clarifying my perspective on this issue :)
>
Received on Tuesday, 16 September 2014 05:27:25 UTC

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