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Re: [proposal] worksFor himself (freelancer)

From: <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 17:32:28 +0200
Cc: W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Message-Id: <D48F00FD-0506-43F6-9544-B591513E47C2@ebusiness-unibw.org>
To: David Deering <david@touchpointdigital.net>
+1 on the idea of adding the skills etc. stuff from JobOffer to Person.

Note that the Person -> makesOffer -> Offer route is for modeling offers made by the person, i.e. the announcement to transfer some rights on some object or to carry out some activity to the favor of someone, typically for a compensation.

This is orthogonal to the question of skills, so the addition would be well complementing each other.

A world-class pianist (Person -> skill > PlayingThePiano) may not offer to play the piano for you (Person -> makesOffer -> PlayThePiano), and Stephen Hawking does likely not offer individual training in theoretical physics. Both are IMO worthwhile things to model in schema.org.

Martin


On 20 May 2014, at 16:45, David Deering <david@touchpointdigital.net> wrote:

> Personally, I would also like to see the Person type expanded a little more to include properties such as "skill(s)" or even "areaOfExpertise".  I think that it would also be nice if the expected value could be a Thing or Product, which would allow us to pull in other data sources such as Productontology, Freebase, or DBpedia to get very granular with things.  Currently, I don't see a clear and simple way to mark up what particular skills a person has or what their field of expertise is.  The Person type does have the jobTitle property, but of course, a job title does not in itself paint the entire picture regarding what a person does or can do.
> 
> It's true that we could use Person >> makesOffer >> Offer to mark up what services a freelancer is offering.  But what if the person isn't a freelancer?  What about just being able to mark up what a person does and what type of skills they have,       whether they work for a company or are self-employed?  I think that by adding a very clear way in which to mark up a person's skills, we can help things on both sides--the person and search engines.
> 
> At least those are my thoughts on this matter.
> 
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> 
> On 5/20/2014 5:34 AM, Lorenzo De Tomasi wrote:
>> What about if, in an Offer, the itemOffered is a Service or a
>> ProfessionalService?
>> Actually itemOffered seems to accept only Products.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 2014-05-19 22:05 GMT+02:00 
>> martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
>> <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
>> :
>> 
>>> I think that
>>> 
>>>     
>>> http://www.schema.org/Person
>>> 
>>> 
>>> already has most of what is needed, and conceptually, a Freelancer is just a person. Of course you could say that a Freelancer is a person that makes at least one offer that includes a product or service. But I do not think that is essential. Freelancers should be modeled as 
>>> http://www.schema.org/Person and ideally model their range of services using http://www.schema.org/Offer
>>> .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes / Mit freundlichen GrŘ▀en
>>> 
>>> Martin Hepp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 May 2014, at 11:37, Lorenzo De Tomasi 
>>> <lorenzodetomasi@isotype.org>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Also vatID can be an indicator.
>>>> Can we write together an example?
>>>> 
>>>> 2014-05-19 11:15 GMT+02:00 
>>>> martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
>>>> <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>>> I would say:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://schema.org/Person
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It can be linked to 
>>>>> http://schema.org/Offer
>>>>> , Brand, Place, ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Martin
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>>>>> On 19 May 2014, at 10:40, Lorenzo De Tomasi 
>>>>> <lorenzodetomasi@isotype.org>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> how can I semantically describe a freelancer?
>>>>>> He works for himself and has clients and projectsů
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> 
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>>>> Regala a tuo figlio un bel libro (e una app). A misura di bambino (0-4 anni).
>>>> Scarica gratis FACCIAMO! 
>>>> <http://www.facciamo.eu>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tra le migliori 20 app del Bologna Ragazzi Digital Award 2014
>>>> Tra le migliori nuove app per iPad per bambini fino ai 5 anni su iTunes
>>>> Vincitrice di gennaio e marzo dei Digital Experience Awards 2014,
>>>> nelle categorie MOBILE / GAME e APP / GAME
>>>> --
>>>> Lorenzo De Tomasi
>>>> ISOTYPE.org. Comunica la qualitÓ
>>>> 
>>>> <http://isotype.org/>
>>>> 
>>>> Coordinatore Area web design
>>>> Designer della comunicazione e delle interfacce
>>>> Professionista ex Legge n. 4 del 14/1/2013
>>>> 
>>>> Tel. 06 56 84 834
>>>> Mobile 392 59 76 416
>>>> Skype lorenzo.detomasi
>>>> Google Hangout 
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