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Re: Schema.org Proposal for Organization Sector

From: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 14:52:40 -0500
Message-ID: <CAChbWaP-QGe-9OCd0=-ZU2EJNMza24dATaaCcaYW0vko8Qe2ig@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>
Cc: Aaron Bradley <aaranged@gmail.com>, Public Vocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>
I was thinking of Intangible... but I would like weigh-in from Dan and
others.

Are there downsides to Intangible, for instance, in this case ?

And this:
<link itemprop="sector" href="http://www.freebase.com/m/03nrdx4" />
has lots of benefits, in that it has links to SKOS Concepts (where you get
Broader: Public Health and Narrower: Planetary Quarantine concepts, for
instance ;-)

So sector, or whatever we decide, is very related to SKOS Concepts from my
perspective...and CreativeWork's "about" property.  Lots of overlaps.
hmmmmmm.



On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree with Aaron, if it's an intangible one could write:
>
> <span itemprop="sector">International Health</span>
>
> or
>
> <link itemprop="sector" href="http://www.freebase.com/m/03nrdx4" />
>
> or
>
> <span itemprop="sector" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Sector">
>  <span itemprop="name">International Health</span>
> <link itemprop="sameAs" href="http://www.freebase.com/m/03nrdx4" />
>  <link itemprop="sameAs" href="
> http://dbpedia.org/page/International_health" />
> </span>
>
>
> 2014-06-07 19:57 GMT+02:00 Aaron Bradley <aaranged@gmail.com>:
>
> *We do NOT have an property called Organization Sector ... And that just
>> bites and also makes it nearly impossible to easily say that an
>> Organization or Website sells products in a particular category(sector)
>> like Baby & Toddler ... or Pets (Animals) .. or Mufflers ... or A/C ... or
>> provides services in the sector of "Physical Therapy" ... while not having
>> to create thousands of sub-Types unnecessarily, like "Physical Therapist",
>> "Muffler Shop", etc.*
>>
>> Given this, and touching on some of David's points, what do you envision
>> the relationship being between specific classes of organizations already
>> available in schema.org?
>>
>> For example, as both EducationalOrganization and a Store selling
>> textbooks might be said to be part of the EducationSector (or whatever),
>> how might those organizations be linked with the sector?
>>
>> I guess if Sector was defined as an Intangible, I guess a property sector
>> with expected type Sector could then be made available under Organization,
>> and perhaps other classes (it strikes me that "sector" is pretty similar to
>> JobPosting's industry property, and even relates on some levels with
>> Audience's audienceType property).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:25 AM, David Deering <
>> david@touchpointdigital.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  I like that idea, Thad.  Currently, sometimes it gets difficult to
>>> specify what type of industry or "space" a business is in, and I understand
>>> that schema.org can't create subtypes for every type of business out
>>> there.  So defining the sector or category with some sort of property would
>>> be of great help to many of us developers.
>>>
>>>      David Deering
>>>  Touch Point Digital Marketing
>>>  (504) 875-2225
>>> david@touchpointdigital.net touchpointdigitalmarketing.com
>>> <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.touchpointdigitalmarketing.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/6/2014 9:39 PM, Thad Guidry wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  You cannot say Organizations are in or about a "Class of Thing".  The
>>> Organization is in a Competitive Space ...or an Organization Sector... like
>>> "Human Rights"... "Animal Training" ... "A/C Repair Services" ... etc.
>>>
>>>  Freebase has all of these, btw.
>>>
>>>  I just quickly found out within our beloved Schema.org.  We do NOT
>>> have an property called Organization Sector, like Freebase does, nor
>>> anything close to that to say "This org is in the business of...this org
>>> deals primarily with...this org mostly sells products concerning the
>>> subject of...."
>>>
>>>  And that just bites and also makes it nearly impossible to easily say
>>> that an Organization or Website sells products in a particular
>>> category(sector) like Baby & Toddler ... or Pets (Animals) .. or Mufflers
>>> ... or A/C ... or provides services in the sector of "Physical Therapy" ...
>>> while not having to create thousands of sub-Types unnecessarily, like
>>> "Physical Therapist", "Muffler Shop", etc.
>>>
>>>  We need an easy path like Organization Sector, to say that an
>>> Organization deals mostly with products or services in a particular sector
>>> or subject, if you will.
>>>
>>>  Thoughts ?
>>>
>>>  --
>>> -Thad
>>> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry>
>>> Thad on LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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