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Re: Schema.org Proposal for Organization Sector

From: Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 12:15:34 +0200
Message-ID: <CADK2AU037mJbrSVTBc+SxrKxypvGNnHf3yy+bSAjve4G9NC2zA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com>
Cc: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
oops, I nested the category wrong:

<div itemid="tour-operator" itemscope itemtype="
http://schema.org/Organization">
<link itemprop="additionalType" href="
http://www.productontology.org/id/Tour_operator" />
<span itemprop="name">Acme holidays</span>
<span itemprop="makesOffer" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Offer">
<span itemid="business-function" itemprop="businessFunction" itemscope
itemtype="http://schema.org/BusinessFunction">
<link itemprop="url" href="http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1#ProvideService">
</span>
<link itemprop="category" href="http://www.freebase.com/m/07bxq" />
</span>
</div>


2014-06-07 12:06 GMT+02:00 Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>:

> And how about using @category within an Offer to express this?
>
> Something like:
> <div itemid="tour-operator" itemscope itemtype="
> http://schema.org/Organization">
>  <link itemprop="additionalType" href="
> http://www.productontology.org/id/Tour_operator" />
>  <span itemprop="name">Acme holidays</span>
> <span itemprop="makesOffer" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Offer">
>  <span itemid="business-function" itemprop="businessFunction" itemscope
> itemtype="http://schema.org/BusinessFunction">
>  <link itemprop="url" href="
> http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1#ProvideService">
>  <link itemprop="category" href="http://www.freebase.com/m/07bxq" />
> </span>
>  </span>
> </div>
>
>
> 2014-06-07 9:40 GMT+02:00 Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Thad,
>>
>> Sounds like a good idea.
>>
>> How about seeking a relation to the W3C Organization Ontology [1] (as
>> well as Freebase, of course, if it brings more to the table). For this
>> specific matter, would either 'purpose' [2] or 'classification' [3] be
>> applicable?
>>
>> (By "seeking a relation", I (as usual) specifically mean cherry-picking
>> terms from existing vocabularies, possibly relabel the imports to fit the
>> scema.org naming scheme, and explicitly linking the two using RDFS
>> and/or OWL in the RDF description of schema.org, to document this
>> relation precisely, thus enabling humans and simpler machines alike to
>> connect the dots.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Niklas
>>
>> [1]: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/
>> [2]: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/#org:purpose
>> [3]: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/#org:classification
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You cannot say Organizations are in or about a "Class of Thing".  The
>>> Organization is in a Competitive Space ...or an Organization Sector... like
>>> "Human Rights"... "Animal Training" ... "A/C Repair Services" ... etc.
>>>
>>> Freebase has all of these, btw.
>>>
>>> I just quickly found out within our beloved Schema.org.  We do NOT have
>>> an property called Organization Sector, like Freebase does, nor anything
>>> close to that to say "This org is in the business of...this org deals
>>> primarily with...this org mostly sells products concerning the subject
>>> of...."
>>>
>>> And that just bites and also makes it nearly impossible to easily say
>>> that an Organization or Website sells products in a particular
>>> category(sector) like Baby & Toddler ... or Pets (Animals) .. or Mufflers
>>> ... or A/C ... or provides services in the sector of "Physical Therapy" ...
>>> while not having to create thousands of sub-Types unnecessarily, like
>>> "Physical Therapist", "Muffler Shop", etc.
>>>
>>> We need an easy path like Organization Sector, to say that an
>>> Organization deals mostly with products or services in a particular sector
>>> or subject, if you will.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Thad
>>> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry>
>>> Thad on LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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