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Re: Can a Product also be a Service or does it require a MTE?

From: Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 01:45:18 +0200
Message-ID: <CADK2AU0rXJ6GW3RX8VVgXAvVruX28bc8kP2LXYt0ne+QLGBP_g@mail.gmail.com>
To: "martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Cc: W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
>
> ...schema:Product is not disjoint with any other type, so you can also
> offer a company, a place, a CreativeWork, etc.


Wait a minute - "any other type"? @itemOffered has an expected value of
Product. Isn't for example <div itemprop="itemOffered" itemscope itemtype="
http://schema.org/Event">...</div> therefor a wrong notation?


2014-06-04 0:07 GMT+02:00 Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>:

> Thanks for explaining Martin, most is clear to me except when to use the
> Service entity by itself.
> Because if 'Any offered product or service' = ProductOrService then when
> would one choose to use just the Service type; only in non-commercial cases?
>
>
>
> 2014-06-03 19:14 GMT+02:00 <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>:
>
>
>> On 03 Jun 2014, at 11:25, Jarno van Driel <jarnovandriel@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > After reading the description of http://schema.org/Product I got a bit
>> confused. It says:
>> > "Any offered product or *service*. For example: a pair of shoes; a
>> concert ticket; *the rental of a car*; *a haircut*; or an episode of a TV
>> show streamed online."
>> >
>> As for rental etc. of physical products: This is straightforward, since
>> the bundle of rights offered by the offer is defined by the
>> gr/schema:BusinessFunction. When you rent a car, you just obtain temporary
>> usage etc. See the definitions at
>>
>> http://www.heppnetz.de/ontologies/goodrelations/v1.html#BusinessFunction
>>
>>         • gr:ConstructionInstallation
>>         • gr:Dispose
>>         • gr:LeaseOut
>>         • gr:Maintain
>>         • gr:ProvideService
>>         • gr:Repair
>>         • gr:Sell
>>         • gr:Buy
>>
>>
>> > The 'service' mentioned made twitch a bit since I thought we have
>> http://schema.org/Service for this. Now I looked up ProductOrService on
>> the Goodrelations site (
>> http://wiki.goodrelations-vocabulary.org/Documentation/Product_or_Service)
>> and this page mentions 3 types of Product entities specifically but doesn't
>> mention Service.
>>
>> schema:Product is equivalent to gr:ProductOrService. The reason for the
>> naming difference is that schema:Product existed before GR was integrated.
>>
>> The subtypes of schema:Product / gr:ProductOrService are for indicating
>> more precisely whether you are talking of
>>
>> - a concrete individual (e.g. a car with a VIN, a computer with a serial
>> number, ...)
>> - a bag of anonymous products (a bit complicated to explain, I admit) and
>> - a product model, essentially a datasheet that defines properties for
>> actualy products.
>>
>> >
>> > So if it's true that Product also can mean a service, than in which
>> case is one supposed to use Service?
>>
>> In essence, being a product is a role that a thing can take by being the
>> object of an offer. schema:Product is not disjoint with any other type, so
>> you can also offer a company, a place, a CreativeWork, etc.
>>
>> >
>> > And if a Product also can be a Service, would one then only use a
>> Multiple-Type-Entity like 'Product Service' when the Product needs
>> properties that are part of Service (or inversed)?
>>
>> If you need properties from another type for describing the product, then
>> a multi-typed entity is the proper way of modeling, yes.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> >
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>>
>>
>
>
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>
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>



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