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Re: Socialnetworks of a person or organization

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 16:35:15 -0400
Message-ID: <5349A383.8050308@openlinksw.com>
To: public-vocabs@w3.org
On 4/12/14 1:54 PM, Thad Guidry wrote:
> (Sigh)
> I still want (and request) a __unique_property__ on Organization or 
> Person
> (or Thing even still, because of those Twitter accounts for funny 
> Squirrels and the GroundHog who pops up during beginning of spring - 
> they are not Persons or an Organization, yet someone moderates their 
> social accounts..so they still have a social account)
>  that holds the idea of a "social identifier".
> .... not just "web identifier".
> And Jarno is right, Webmasters have and are crying for a specific 
> property to help disambiguate between the Regular Web 
> identifiers...and the Social Web identifiers.  Just give them the 
> little elves their tools already !
> (love ya Kingsley, but your stretching on territory that 90% of the 
> world does not care about, but keep on researching !)

100% of the literate world, in any natural language, understands the 
concept of denotation (or naming).

If we didn't have the ability to give things names, we have no basis for 
language (that powerful mechanism we use to encode and decode information).

Denotation isn't a concept to be broken by the Web. It's a concept to be 
explained to the so called "Web Developer" who (in your words) seeks to 
disambiguate entities in social relations distinct from entities in 
other relations.

The label of a relationship property doesn't really matter, its the 
semantics of the relation that ultimately facilitate the encoding and 
decoding of information via language.

At this juncture, I thought the focus was determining a label for a 
relationship property that doesn't confuse i.e., doesn't have "sameAs" 
in it?

Putting relation semantics aside, the only no-no is "sameAs" beyond 
that, any label with do as the relationship property label and actual 
relation semantics are distinct.

Thus far I've suggested following suggested relationship property label 
alternatives to "sameAs" :

1. webid -- this is what provides the clearest relation hint, from my 
vantage point
2. describedBy
3. profileAt
4. hasProfileDoc
5. identifiedBy -- this is the second in my order of preference
6. referencedBy
7. subjectOf .

I am sure you can add to the list, or reject the lot and provide 
alternatives :-)



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