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Re: Citation markup with Periodical proposal

From: Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 13:01:02 -0500
Message-ID: <CACfEFw90q831Lj63_u=qK_-4hAWTmCWUGwjL2OrgDzjh_25sMA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Wallis,Richard" <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>
Cc: "kcoyle@kcoyle.net" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, "<public-vocabs@w3.org>" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Thanks!

This seems especially helpful and in support of "Joint Declaration of
Data Citation Principles" (Human Understandable and
Machine-Actionable) [1]

I wonder whether this schmema.org microdata encoding of MLA citation
style would qualify as a new CSL citation style. [2][3]

Microdata and/or RDFa output templates for Zotero would be neat. [4]

[1] http://www.force11.org/datacitation
[2] http://citationstyles.org/styles/style-repository/
[3] https://www.zotero.org/styles
[4] https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/35992/export-to-schemaorg-rdfa-andor-microdata/
:

> How would I go about adding HTML + RDFa [1] and/or HTML + Microdata [2] export templates with Schema.org classes and properties to Zotero?
>
> References
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/microdata/
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema.org
> [4] http://schema.org/docs/full.html
> [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2014Apr/0104.html



On 4/11/14, Wallis,Richard <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org> wrote:
> Thanks Karen.
>
> When this gets adopted we can add a couple of examples to the SchemaBibex
> Recipes and
> Guidelines<http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Recipes_and_Guidelines>
> section.  I may defer for assistance at that time to someone with a greater
> insight into citation styles than I have ;-)
>
>
> ~Richard
>
> On 11 Apr 2014, at 02:57, Karen Coyle
> <kcoyle@kcoyle.net<mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Richard. I did a modification of the markup with the date following
> the author's name (which is the APA, Turabian and Chicago style). The turtle
> is below. Because of the position of the date, the publication issue is
> invoked twice. If that's not a problem, then I'd suggest adding one of those
> formats as well to our extended "how to use" document.
>
> @prefix rdfa: <http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa#> .
> @prefix schema: <http://schema.org/> .
> @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
>
> <http://rdfa.info/play/>
>   rdfa:usesVocabulary schema: .
> _:1
>   rdf:type schema:ScholarlyArticle;
>   schema:author "Carlyle, Allyson.";
>   schema:isPartOf _:2;
>   schema:isPartOf _:3;
>   schema:isPartOf _:4;
>   schema:isPartOf _:5;
>   schema:name """Understanding FRBR as a Conceptual Model: FRBR
>    and the Bibliographic Universe""";
>   schema:pageStart "264";
>   schema:pageEnd "273";
>   schema:sameAs <http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/01639374.2012.682254> .
> _:2
>   rdf:type schema:PublicationIssue;
>   schema:datePublished "2006" .
> _:3
>   rdf:type schema:Periodical;
>   schema:name "Library Resources and Technical Services" .
> _:4
>   rdf:type schema:PublicationVolume;
>   schema:volumeNumber "50" .
> _:5
>   rdf:type schema:PublicationIssue;
>   schema:issueNumber "4" .
>
> kc
>
>
> On 4/10/14, 11:58 PM, Wallis,Richard wrote:
> An example for “/An article citation in MLA format, using a 'flat'
> approach that simplifies markup by not specifying an explicit
> relationship between the periodical, volume, and issue/” has now been
> added to the proposal document here
> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Periodicals,_Articles_and_Multi-volume_Works#Example_3_-_An_article_citation_in_MLA_format.2C_using_a_.27flat.27_markup_approach>.
>
>
> ~Richard
>
> On 9 Apr 2014, at 14:50, Wallis,Richard
> <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org<mailto:Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>
> <mailto:Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>> wrote:
>
> Coming out of a day of wall-2-wall meetings to find this list has made
> the points I was going to make and formed a general consensus is great!
>
> So all I can add is, support to Dan’s earlier comment that the
> SchemaBibex "/proposal slants toward hierarchical markup/” yet "/At
> the same time, we can also support quite flat markup/" - “ /..the
> proposal fills a significant gap in the schema.org<http://schema.org>
> <http://schema.org/> vocabulary./”
>
> Plus I acknowledge that the examples in the proposal are lacking one
> that demonstrates this flat approach.
>
> I will work with Dan to get such an example added to the proposal and
> also take this into account when we add to the SchemaBibEx Recipes and
> Guidelines
> <https://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Recipes_and_Guidelines>
> section,
> once it has been adopted
>
> Thanks to Karen for raising this and to all who contributed.
>
> ~Richard
>
> On 9 Apr 2014, at 14:14, Dan Scott
> <dan@coffeecode.net<mailto:dan@coffeecode.net>
> <mailto:dan@coffeecode.net>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 07:48:56PM +0200, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Thanks, Niklas and Dan and Adrian.
>
> Niklas, yours is a successful version of something that I tried
> unsuccessfully - nesting all of the periodical "parts" in between
> article properties. The turtle makes sense to me, even though the
> RDFa is hard to grasp (but then, I'm not a machine).
>
> Dan, I couldn't turtle-ize yours, and the rich snippet tool appears
> to be flaky and wouldn't spit out the pages section. It may be
> equivalent to Niklas' - I have no idea. Sorry.
>
> My fault: I'm much better at RDFa than I am at microdata; I should have
> prefixed http://schema.org/ to the PublicationVolume / PublicationIssue
> types in my microdata example. At least that works as I meant it to in
> http://linter.structured-data.org
> <http://linter.structured-data.org/> and
> http://rdf.greggkellogg.net/distiller (and by the way, Gregg, you rock
> for providing both of those services!)
>
> In any case, the core difference between Niklas's and my example is that
> I did not include any nesting, because I thought flat was what you were
> asking for. And yes, the Rich Snippet Tool is well-known for dropping
> properties that it doesn't recognize (it complains about isPartOf and
> presumably can't be bothered to complain about pageStart / pageEnd).
>
> Let's get this proposal adopted and put the Rich Snippet Tool to work!
>
>
>
>
> --
> Karen Coyle
> kcoyle@kcoyle.net<mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> http://kcoyle.net
> m: 1-510-435-8234
> skype: kcoylenet
>
>
>


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