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Re: Socialnetworks of a person or organization

From: Aaron Bradley <aaranged@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:50:23 -0700
Message-ID: <CAMbipBsFRFdqQGyTmLJkKAvovHAgroZKwgUZcECpVygS4JczjQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
I think Thad typifies the difference between the "regular web" and the
"social web" (and it is indeed an important one for marketers) well when he
says:

> The difference between the 2 is that one has the context of "allows a
communication pathway to an Organization or Person"...versus those that are
not constructed to really have communication to a Organization or Person".

Or - as I might have mentioned before - the "regular web" references
resources *about* an entity, whereas the social web references resources
that emanate *from* an entity.  In regard to the referenced entity the
former is passive, the latter active (or at least  potentially so) - it's
the difference between a third and person narrative.

Is the Wikipedia page *about *Monsanto in the same category as the Twitter
account run *by* Monsanto?  I sure don't think so, and I think that its
useful for data consumers to be able to distinguish between these two
classes of identifiers when returning information about the entity in
question.


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote:

>  On 4/11/14 4:06 PM, Jarno van Driel wrote:
>
> Being a non-illuminati I think simple. The description of sameAs mentions
> about the item's identity. Now for me my 'identity' isn't defined by a
> Youtube channel where I share random stuff I like on the web. I am no
> @VideoGallery, I'm me, a real life person and not a collection of videos.
>
> Dan's example in HTML+Microdata (which by notation choice
> **inadvertently** blurs visibility of the relation semantics in play) :
>
> <div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"<http://schema.org/Person>>
>
> <span itemprop="name">Stephen Fry</span>
>     (<a itemprop="url" href="http://www.stephenfry.com/"<http://www.stephenfry.com/>
> >stephenfry.com</a>,
>      <a itemprop="sameAs" href="http://twitter.com/stephenfry"<http://twitter.com/stephenfry>>twitter</a>,
>
> <a itemprop="sameAs"
> href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry"<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry>>wikipedia</a>)
>
> </div>
>
>
> Turtle  translation:
>
> <> <http://www.w3.org/ns/md#item> <http://www.w3.org/ns/md#item> [
>        <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type><http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
> <http://schema.org/Person> <http://schema.org/Person>;
>        <http://schema.org/name> <http://schema.org/name> "Stephen Fry";
>        <http://schema.org/sameAs> <http://schema.org/sameAs>
> <http://twitter.com/stephenfry> <http://twitter.com/stephenfry>,
>        <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry>;
>
>        <http://schema.org/url> <http://schema.org/url>
> <http://www.stephenfry.com/> <http://www.stephenfry.com/>
>      ];
> <http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa#usesVocabulary><http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa#usesVocabulary>
> <http://schema.org/> <http://schema.org/> .
>
>
> What does Dan's example demonstrate?
>
> The function of a **pronoun** in a sentence or statement. Basically, the
> example makes the following claim, using terms from <http://schema.org/><http://schema.org/>(a Vocabulary):
>
> Someone or something has determined the existence of an entity that has
> the following discernible attributes:
> Name: "Stephen Fry"
> Type: Person
> referencedBy: <http://twitter.com/stephenfry><http://twitter.com/stephenfry>,
> <http://twitter.com/stephenfry> <http://twitter.com/stephenfry>,
> <http://www.stephenfry.com/> <http://www.stephenfry.com/> .
>
> Personally, I wouldn't denote a relationship predicate/property for this
> relation, in this manner, due to the **equivalence** intuition.
> Alternatives inclued:
>
> 1. referencedBy
> 2. subjectOf
> 3. identifiedBy -- this is my personal favorite .
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen	
> Founder & CEO
> OpenLink Software
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>
>
>
>
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