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Re: SKOS for schema.org proposal for discussion

From: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:06:17 +0200
Cc: public-vocabs@w3.org
Message-Id: <D355627D-0DB2-4F66-ADDC-6375D64D66E6@ebusiness-unibw.org>
To: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>

On Sep 23, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Holger Knublauch wrote:

> ...
> 
> Likewise, altLabel and hiddenLabel may be sufficiently generic to be upgraded to Thing, in support of semantic search.
> 
+ 1 
;)


> Holger
> 
> 
> On 9/23/2013 6:18, Dan Brickley wrote:
>> +Cc: Jeremy, Andreas
>> 
>> On 22 September 2013 21:12, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Personally, I'm strongly in favor of this SKOS-lite proposal and would like
>>> to see it in schema.org. This would be useful in particular for the Drupal 8
>>> schema.org integration. In Drupal 7 we've been using skos:Concept and
>>> skos:prefLabel to annotate the taxonomy terms type and name in RDFa (see
>>> example [1]). There is currently no real equivalent in schema.org. At the
>>> moment we're using the weaker schema:Thing in Drupal 8, but having a
>>> schema:Concept would be more appropriate IMO. In Drupal, taxonomy terms (aka
>>> tags) are often use to tag articles or pieces of content in general. We're
>>> currently using schema:about to link articles to their tags in the default
>>> article content type that comes pre-installed, so having a schema:Concept
>>> would be a good companion to schema:about, and more precise than
>>> schema:Thing.
>> Hey, this is great - many thanks for restarting this discussion.
>> 
>> I am very sympathetic to this too. We have several ad-hoc places in
>> schema.org where categories and code lists could be modeled in a more
>> structured manner (but without having a full entities/properties
>> approach). For example, JobPosting job taxonomies, LRMI educational
>> AlignmentObject codes, recipe and event categories, ... It has also
>> cropped up in recent discussion around the idea of additional rNews
>> extensions relating to http://www.bbc.co.uk/ontologies/storyline/
>> 
>> I'm not sure the direct mapping of ConceptScheme to Enumeration works
>> as intended, but that's a relatively minor point. I imagine some
>> vocabulary publishers might choose to publish using RDFa Lite + SKOS +
>> schema.org simultaneously.
>> 
>> Stéphane, on the Drupal front, how much is built-in to the core now
>> versus handled by one of the countless 3rd party Drupal extensions?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> Steph.
>>> 
>>> [1] http://zbw.eu/labs/en/taxonomy/term/3
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Stéphane Corlosquet
>>> <scorlosquet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I've added the SKOS proposal sent by Jean Delahousse to the wiki [1] and
>>>> converted it to a schema.org RDFS document [2].
>>>> 
>>>> We should probably discuss this proposal further now that's it's on the
>>>> wiki.
>>>> 
>>>> Steph.
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/SKOS
>>>> [2] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webschema/raw-file/tip/schema.org/ext/skos.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 January 2013 11:13, jean delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have worked on a integration of SKOS into Schema.org.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The idea is to be able to publish pages about concepts described in a
>>>>>> controled vocabulary and to describe the controlled vocabulary itself.
>>>>>> Use case can be the publication of a library controlled vocabulary as
>>>>>> Rameau
>>>>>> from the French National Library (http://data.bnf.fr/13318366/musique/)
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> authorities by Library of Congress
>>>>>> (http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh2003003686.html) , or a
>>>>>> glossary
>>>>>> in a web site.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I attached the draft. I would be happy to go on with this project with
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> of you.
>>>>> Thanks for making a concrete proposal - this is really positive! Your
>>>>> reward is that I ask something more from you ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would you have time to make an HTML+RDFa+RDFS version of this proposal?
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are some examples in our WebSchemas area of W3C Mercurial repo,
>>>>> here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webschema/file/default/schema.org/ext
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope they are almost self-explanatory. We can get you access or just
>>>>> send along HTML by mail/wiki. If you don't have time I 100%
>>>>> understand, but I'm trying to build a workflow here that doesn't
>>>>> suffer from my being a bottleneck, so hopefully this machine-readable
>>>>> proposals mechanism will help...
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Steph.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Steph.
> 
> 

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