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Re: Semantically marking up a "checklist" or process

From: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:04:20 -0400
Message-ID: <CAOr1obFXJ2beO8OiMQYQCPbNPEX9A5GAxfqRbG81j6A+-z2f9g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Tallyfy <hello@tallyfy.com>
Cc: Sam Goto <goto@google.com>, Jason Douglas <jasondouglas@google.com>, PublicVocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>
I think a combination of Jason's suggestion of
http://schema.org/ItemListand something similar to
http://schema.org/Recipe would do the trick. The key difference is that you
probably want to specify the step number instead of relying on page layout
as parsers often discard the order of elements.

 Vicki

Vicki Tardif Holland | Metadata Analyst | vtardif@google.com | 978-613-9630



On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Tallyfy <hello@tallyfy.com> wrote:

>  "Process" sounds very promising as a purely top-level construct, because
> any serial process (not related to a "thing" but maybe with embedded
> references to things) can be wrapped and labelled as an actionable
> container. http://schema.org/Recipe is the same concept as this, but only
> relates to food recipes.
>
> We subscribe the Gates quote - "the future of search is verbs" and
> interpret it as machines able to understand not just content, but processes
> like "How to get a Chile tourist visa for British citizens" - an ordered
> list of steps. Rankings for processes are also different to content
> backlinks, which we are working on, as you could define pre-requisites (do
> this before doing this) and chain processes after (after doing this -
> continue with this).
>
> Could somebody help me propose this as a new item? I have no idea where to
> start.
>
> thanks
> Amit
> http://tallyfy.com
>
> On Thursday, 5 September 2013 at 17:36, Sam Goto wrote:
>
> Maybe an ItemList (or a specialized subclass, e.g.
> http://schema.org/Process) of http://schema.org/Action and its subclasses?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Tallyfy <hello@tallyfy.com> wrote:
>
> The list may not be about a specific thing, but a process - which could
> include many things. For example - the list, "How to enjoy a great Saturday
> night in" might have a reference to a food - pizza AND a movie - as an
> entity, etc. Granted, the example isn't the best, but it's entirely
> unrelated to any specific thing.
>
> In the composite scenario (which might not even have any linked entities)
> - I guess there might not even be a thing here at all, it's quite
> specifically a set of steps with an objective. For example "What to look
> out for when buying a house in London"
>
> So to clarify, this isn't to enumerate objects or things into a determined
> order like "Top 10" - it's to define actionable things as steps - whether
> or not there's related entities.
>
> A
>
> On Thursday, 5 September 2013 at 17:24, Jason Douglas wrote:
>
> Maybe a new subclass of ItemList <http://schema.org/ItemList>?
>
> Aside: seems like ItemListElement should have a range of Thing so you
> could do structured lists (movies, steps, etc.).
>
> -jason
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Tallyfy <hello@tallyfy.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi everyone,
>
> I run a startup called http://tallyfy.com
>
> We've just been enrolled into StartupChile, and aim to launch within a few
> months using their help. Our homepage looks something like this:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14563542/tallyfy.png
>
> What we do is allow anyone to embed knowledge as steps in a checklist or a
> process. Examples might be:
>
>    - How to bake a carrot cake
>    - How to change a bicycle tyre
>    - What to pack if you're visiting the Amazon rainforest
>    - My bucket list
>
> The clearest and most obvious point to make here is that these checklists,
> when marked up via schema.org would be excellent ways to present answers
> to questions without people going through many pages on search engines.
>
> So I wanted to propose *a schema for marking up a checklist* (or a
> process).. If there is one already - could someone point me to it?
>
> If we could understand that this is a "set of steps for doing something" -
> I think that would be very valuable, not just to search but for people
> looking for knowledge which is actionable, not just web pages. In other
> words, an actual set of steps marked up is more valuable than a block of
> content (usually using <ol> or <ul> HTML) which blends into a web page.
>
> We intend to do a lot more - you can measure how many people did a
> checklist, how long it took on average, reviews, etc. so perhaps those
> could incorporate into this schema.
>
> thanks
> Amit
>
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