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Re: SKOS for schema.org proposal for discussion

From: Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:20:39 -0400
Message-ID: <CAGR+nnG+v61p+xZeM4jmGRarcCrHLRdY-XwRVmt=sXfg1KkBRg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
Cc: Guha <guha@google.com>, "Evain, Jean-Pierre" <evain@ebu.ch>, Amanda Vizedom <amanda.vizedom@gmail.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, jean delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:

> As someone who is brand new to SKOS (in the last 8 months or so).. I will
> give you my personal opinion, which is in agreement with Jean-Pierre...

Do you represent the audience that schema.org is after? From what I know
about you (mostly from this mailing list) I think you have more knowledge
and interest about KR than the average developer :) especially being a
freebase contributor. Is "SKOS" that popular among web developers who build
blog sites or e-commerce site? I don't think so. IMO, "SkosConcept" will
look too esoteric to be used by regular site builders/developers, unless
they really care to look for the definition of SKOS on wikipedia (something
most people won't do).

What do people think of what Martin suggested earlier: TerminologyConcept?
Or simply Topic? Topic is a bit more restrictive, but I think is more
appealing/intuitive for newbies than SkosConcept.


> I want to see SkosConcept in Schema.org "as-is".  I have never been
> confused about the meaning of it, once I read the initial description on
> Wikipedia about SkosConcept.
> Why does the proposal even suggest a "mapping" ?  Why not just use the
> same label on both sides ?  "SkosConcept" = "skos:Concept"
> In Freebase, we decided to use a mapping where we have a our existing
> topics Typed as a "Vocabulary Equivalent Topic" that are mapped to
> "Equivalent SKOS Concepts" ... like the Topic of "Painting" that is a form
> of Artwork that has a Broader Concept of "Graphic arts" so:
> https://www.freebase.com/m/05qdh#/base/skosbase/vocabulary_equivalent_topic
> Before, we just had the label as "Equivalent Topic" ... and it didn't make
> sense... It was very confusing to me and others and I didn't know on one
> end if I was still looking at the SKOS Concept... or the Equivalent Topic
> for something else or another Domain Equivalent Topic.  We ultimately
> decided to make it less confusing and we renamed to use the term
> "Equivalent SKOS Concept".. because as Jean-Pierre notes, that SKOS Concept
> already had the full intended meaning and was already simple and well
> defined and used in the World Wide Web.
> So, I think Guha has a concern, but I do not share his concern, even as
> someone who is just newly exposed to SKOS.
> --
> -Thad
> Thad on Freebase.com <http://www.freebase.com/view/en/thad_guidry>
> Thad on LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/>

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