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Re: [a11y-metadata-project] accessHazard

From: Gerardo Capiel <gerardoc@benetech.org>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:13:19 +0000
To: Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <emmanuelle@sidar.org>
CC: Madeleine Rothberg <madeleine_rothberg@wgbh.org>, "<a11y-metadata-project@googlegroups.com>" <a11y-metadata-project@googlegroups.com>, "<public-vocabs@w3.org>" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
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Emmanuelle,

I think the fact that it's a vocabulary value on a property called accessHazard somewhat implies that the flashing is a hazard.

Gerardo

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On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo
 <emmanuelle@sidar.org>
 wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> I am concerned that the term "flashing" can be misleading or confusing. Something that flashes is not bad in itself, everything depends on the ratio of flashes per second. At least not for everyone. While something that flashes to any ratio can be annoying and even disabling for a person with attention deficit is not for everyone. And for something that flashes generate a seizure, certain conditions must be met.
> I think we need to be more precise.
> Perhaps there could be a general indicator for something that flashes and another for something that can generate seizures in some people.
>  
> Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo
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> Fundación Sidar - Acceso Universal
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>  
> De: a11y-metadata-project@googlegroups.com [mailto:a11y-metadata-project@googlegroups.com] En nombre de Madeleine Rothberg
> Enviado el: miércoles, 02 de octubre de 2013 0:43
> Para: a11y-metadata-project@googlegroups.com; public-vocabs@w3.org
> Asunto: Re: [a11y-metadata-project] accessHazard
>  
> Yes! Even better. 
>  
> Madeleine 
> 
> On 2013-10-01, at 6:11 PM, "Charles Myers" <charlesm@benetech.org> wrote:
> 
> Charles McN had a great idea when he brought this up.  But it may actually be a bit simpler to specify.
> Rather than sav
>  
> noFlashing
> noMotionSimulation
> noSound
> in addition to the three properties we have today
> flashing
> motionSimulation
> sound
>  
> we might just want to have a state of "none" (saying that you checked and that there are no hazards that you are aware of).
>  
> That would change the spec to
> flashing
> motionSimulation
> sound
> none (or noHazard)
> which makes it cleaner.  I think that saying the negative to each of the three properties would be a bit tedious.  And, of course, not having the property means that it has not been checked.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Madeleine Rothberg <madeleine_rothberg@wgbh.org>
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chuck has updated the issues list to include the discussion of whether
> accessHazard should state positive or negative information. See that post
> and my comments, which are also below, at:
> [http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility/Issues_Tracker#accessHazar
> d_-_Ok_as_is.2C_or_should_it_be_negated_in_sense.3F]
> 
> I believe we need both accessHazard=flashing and accessHazard=noFlashing,
> etc.. This is because there are three cases we'd like to distinguish:
> 
> 1. checked and it's fine
> 2. checked and it is NOT fine
> 3. didn't check
> 
> "Didn't check" can be signified by no metadata -- this will be most of the
> content on the Web. In cases where someone has checked, let's record both
> positive and negative states.
> 
> -Madeleine
> 
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