Re: Proposal to include ISNI

I like this very much, thank you!

From: Paul Watson <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk<mailto:lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk>>
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Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM
To: Laura Dawson <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com<mailto:Laura.Dawson@bowker.com>>, Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org<mailto:martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>>
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Subject: Re: Proposal to include ISNI

+1 that we should highlight ISNI/ORCID in the Schema documentation.

Perhaps the Description of the sameAs property could be edited to read:

"URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the item's identity. E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page, ISNI/ORCID URI, or official website."

(Disclaimer for transparency: I work for an academic publishing company that is one of the Sponsors of ORCID)


On 20/11/13 21:53, Laura Dawson wrote:

We’re pretty happy, yes. :)

Yes, if we could include it as an example in the documentation, that would
be really helpful in encouraging further use. You’re right about the
difference with ISBNs - unfortunately they are associated with a
particular vendor or platform.

On 11/20/13, 4:49 PM, "Martin Hepp" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org><mailto:martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
wrote:



In any case, it would of course make sense to encourage the use of ISNI
identifiers in markup by means of a respective example in the schema.org
spec.

More than 6 million unique identifiers for contributors to creative works
is an impressive achievement!

Martin

On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Martin Hepp wrote:



Hi Laura,
if there is (or will shortly) be a canonical way of expressing an ISNI
identifier as a URI, then I think Paul's proposal is best.
The difference to ISBN is that for ISBN codes, there is no canonical
URI schema defined (at least to my knowledge).

Martin

On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Laura Dawson wrote:



You’re absolutely right about expressing ISNI in the form of a
persistent
URI. (Currently you can do so using the URL
http://isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, but we are moving that
functionality to http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). However, I
was looking at ISNI use in the same way that ISBN is used in “Book”.
That
potential exists as well, so that data sets can communicate with one
another.

On 11/20/13, 4:36 PM, "Paul Watson" <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk><mailto:lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk>
wrote:



Hi Laura,

We currently have the "sameAs" property in "Person" (and in
"Organization")
which is defined as:

"URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the item's
identity.
E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page, or official
website."

I've had a quick look at the ISNI website and it looks like ISNI
identifiers
are in the form of a persistent URI, and I believe ORCID is the same,
so
perhaps the existing "sameAs" property can immediately be used for the
ISNI/ORCID URI?

Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything!

Regards,

Paul

On 20/11/13 21:17, Laura Dawson wrote:


Hi, all -

I¹m writing to propose including ISNI as a property for Person, and
for
Organization. ISNI is an ISO standard that is nearly 2 years old, and
we¹re starting to see uptake in VIAF, Wikipedia, Digital Science,
ORCID
(they use it to identify organization names), Musicbrainz, and other
data
sets. Currently, there are 6.8 million ISNIs assigned to names (6.4
million people, 400K organizations), but these numbers are growing
with
new data sets. I think with these sorts of numbers, it¹s a valuable
disambiguation/collocation tool for public identities.

We may want to also include other identifiers like ORCID, which is
heavily
used in the scholarly/research community, particularly STEM. ORCID
is a
subset of ISNI, with different assignment criteria.

More information is here: http://www.isni.org. I¹m happy to send
around
documentation, slide decks, or answer any questions as well.

Sincerely,

Laura Dawson
Product Manager, Identifier Services
http://www.isni.orghttp://www.selfpublishedauthor.com


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