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RE: Update: VisualArtwork type proposed in May this year

From: Thanigai Vellore <TVellore@art.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:20:57 +0000
To: Tom Morris <tfmorris@gmail.com>, "lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk" <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk>
CC: "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
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Hi Tom,

When it comes to Artwork, one of the main visual attributes for any artwork is its color composition. The design industry (Web design, fashion design) and decor industry (art, interior design) heavily uses color swatches and palettes for creating harmonic designs.

There are a lot of studies about the colors used by artists in artworks to extract his information. For example, if you look at here (http://designshack.net/articles/inspiration/10-free-color-palettes-from-10-famous-paintings/ and http://www.colourlovers.com/blog/2007/06/20/color-inspiration-from-the-masters-of-painting ), color palettes for famous artworks are expressed.

Currently, a lot of websites express palettes on their pages but there is no standards in expressing them semantically. This colorPalette property will help in solving that issue.

-Thanigai.


From: Tom Morris [tfmorris@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:33 AM
To: lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk
Cc: public-vocabs@w3.org
Subject: Re: Update: VisualArtwork type proposed in May this year

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Paul Watson <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk<mailto:lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi

Some months ago I proposed a VisualArtwork type (details at http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/VisualArtwork)

I have just made 1 edit to the wiki to change the "materials" property to the singular "material", which is more in line with other schemas (where properties are described in the singular), and allows multiple materials used on a single piece of artwork to be marked up individually, e.g.

<span itemprop="material">Oil</span> and <span itemprop="material">Gold Leaf</span> on <span itemprop="surface">wood</span>

Thanigai Vellore has also added their suggestions for a ColorPalette addition to the VisualArtwork type on the wiki yesterday. I have no objections to this addition, even though I would not use those properties myself - I can see that it might be useful for certain applications of the schema.

There didn't seem to be any objection to the VisualArtwork proposal back in May (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2013May/0024.html) and several people welcomed/seconded it, and so I was wondering:

What is the process to move this proposal to full inclusion and publication on schema.org<http://schema.org>?

I can't help with the process, but I think a more specific property name than "edition" would be useful.  While the descriptive text is clear, it's probably not what most people think of when they see the name.

I'd also consider "support" or some other alternative to "surface" since it often isn't on the surface at all.  You might want to include "Medium" in the description for "Material" as a synonym that people are likely to search for.

I'm not really thrilled with the color palette proposal. As you mentioned, reflective colors, unlike transmissive colors, are entirely dependent on the light they are reflecting.  I can't imagine any describing an artwork as 30% sky blue and the RGB hex value is going to be meaningless without some reference light source (not to mention digital works using non-RGB color spaces).

Tom
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