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Re: Yandex Testing Tool supports JSON-LD

From: Alexander Shubin <ajax@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:34:56 +0400
To: Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net>
CC: "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Message-ID: <9961CC73-BDE6-44D0-9EFC-B46BFA81F2F7@yandex-team.ru>
Hi Markus,

Thanks for the feedback!

> What exactly do you mean by this?

I mean that we don't expand terms to full IRIs or JSON objects (http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld/#dfn-expanded-term-definition) using information in @context as it is done by json-ld/playground (http://json-ld.org/playground/index.html), tab "Expanded".

> I played a bit with the validator but wasn't able to trigger a validation
> error unless I created invalid *JSON* (a missing comma for example).

Can you elaborate more about what did you try and what output did you expect? Concrete examples would help significantly!

>  It
> would be great if you could tweak the output a bit so that it becomes clear
> what kind of data you were able to extract.

Not sure I got the point but UX is certainly needs improving. We're working on it ;)
----
Best,
Alex


On Dec 2, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> On Monday, December 02, 2013 2:47 PM, Alexander Shubin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm happy to say that Yandex has added JSON-LD support to its markup
>> validator. You're welcome to check it here:
>> http://webmaster.yandex.com/microtest.xml
> 
> This is great news! Thanks for sharing. Just a quick question (below)
> 
>> Our main goal is to provide webmasters with simple and fast tool for
>> checking markup on the webpages. We've already supported all the popular
>> syntaxes such as microdata, rdfa-lite and microformats. JSON-LD becomes
>> more and more popular and is used in different products (e.g.,
>> Yandex.Islands, GMail Actions, etc). Together with all schema.org partners
>> we understand our responsibility to help webmasters with learning new
>> language.
>> 
>> Since our first goal is simplicity we're not so strict in "context"
>> requirements (unlike great instrument here: http://json-
>> ld.org/playground/index.html). And we're still looking for better approach
>> for expanding terms: right now we don't expand them explicitly in the
>> output.
> 
> What exactly do you mean by this?
> 
> I played a bit with the validator but wasn't able to trigger a validation
> error unless I created invalid *JSON* (a missing comma for example). It
> would be great if you could tweak the output a bit so that it becomes clear
> what kind of data you were able to extract. Perhaps by linking the tokens
> directly to their documentation on schema.org or at least showing the URLs
> as tooltips (such as in my Hydra Console, http://bit.ly/1cO6pmI click on
> "Load")!?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Markus
> 
> 
> --
> Markus Lanthaler
> @markuslanthaler



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