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Re: (most likely) Version 1.0 of LRMI specification - proposed for inclusion with Schema.org

From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:31:53 +0200
Message-Id: <677E85F5-F6A5-4E06-97F1-0767A90A8D25@danbri.org>
Cc: Greg Grossmeier <greg@creativecommons.org>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
To: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
On 14 Jun 2012, at 12:53, Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote:

> Good ;-) GoodRelations is agnostic of the description of object, happening, or abstract ("Product or Service") on which the offer promises to grant some rights.
> 
> I personally think that it must be very easy to define patterns for using GoodRelations in schema.org related to LRMI descriptions of content.

Ok, let's try to do this for at least one simple example. 

While courses are relevant, we don't yet have LRMI stretched to cover those.

How about a textbook; Gilbert Strang's 'Linear Algebra and its Applications'.

Eg see http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0155510053

What can GR tell us about this as a product / creativework? What can LRMI tell us?

I am sure there are richer scenarios to explore but let's get a 'textbook example' working for schema 1.0.

Martin/Greg - can you each work on half of this example?

Dan


> Martin
> 
> On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
> 
>> Just to explicitly address this message:
>> 
>> LRMI is agnostic to the commercialness of a resource.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> <quote name="Martin Hepp" date="2012-06-13" time="07:55:06 +0200">
>>> Hi Greg, Dan:
>>> 
>>> What we should keep on our radar is checking that you can model commercial courses / training using both the LRMI and the GoodRelations extension of schema.org.
>>> 
>>> Martin
>>> 
>>> On May 24, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> <quote name="Peter Pinch" date="2012-05-22" time="17:29:52 +0000">
>>>>> I'm excited to see this moving along as well. Two questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. What's the possibility for considering the online course suggestions
>>>>> Aaron Bradley made? If it's too late to propose new properties (I.e.
>>>>> Credit), can we at least document as best practice the use of the Event
>>>>> type for describing start and end dates?
>>>> 
>>>> It is true that defining a 'course' in the LRMI standard was out of
>>>> scope. However, as I believe Aaron stated, there is no reason why a
>>>> course could not be made up of distinct pieces (resources) that are
>>>> marked up with LRMI.
>>>> 
>>>> But, it is true that there is no way to describe the course itself via
>>>> LRMI terms. I, honestly, haven't thought through the use of Event start
>>>> and end dates for that type of thing. That type of addition would be
>>>> useful for a certain kind of course (that is describable online) (ie:
>>>> those which are bound by a time and have regular meetings) but it
>>>> doesn't do much for a self-learner type course.
>>>> 
>>>> These are good things to think about and I look forward to working with
>>>> the community to address them intelligently.
>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Is anything happening with accessibility?
>>>> 
>>>> As you may know, LRMI began with an eye towards accessibility but we
>>>> quickly dropped it as we did not have the expertise within our Technical
>>>> Working Group, and managing the process for learning resources was time
>>>> consuming enough :)
>>>> 
>>>> However, there is work being done now by some in the accessibility
>>>> community to augment LRMI (or plain Schema.org) with ally information.
>>>> Be on the look out for an update on that as we know more.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Greg
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Greg Grossmeier
>>>> Education Technology & Policy Coordinator
>>>> twitter: @g_gerg / identi.ca: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> martin hepp
>>> e-business & web science research group
>>> universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
>>> 
>>> e-mail:  hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
>>> phone:   +49-(0)89-6004-4217
>>> fax:     +49-(0)89-6004-4620
>>> www:     http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group)
>>>        http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal)
>>> skype:   mfhepp 
>>> twitter: mfhepp
>>> 
>>> Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data!
>>> =================================================================
>>> * Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Greg Grossmeier
>> Education Technology & Policy Coordinator
>> twitter: @g_gerg / identi.ca: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier
>> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> martin hepp
> e-business & web science research group
> universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
> 
> e-mail:  hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
> phone:   +49-(0)89-6004-4217
> fax:     +49-(0)89-6004-4620
> www:     http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group)
>         http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal)
> skype:   mfhepp 
> twitter: mfhepp
> 
> Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data!
> =================================================================
> * Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/
> 
> 
> 
> 
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