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Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Curriculum Vitae (resumé) schema

From: Hugh Paterson III <hugh@thejourneyler.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:00:38 -0500
Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, public-vocabs@w3.org, George Katsanos <gkatsanos@gmail.com>
Message-Id: <DC13D87B-7407-4D86-8FF9-C61648CCFEEA@thejourneyler.org>
To: Microformats Discuss <microformats-discuss@microformats.org>
Tantek

There is one part the hResume format that is a bit less than eloquent for CVs. That is the citations section of a CV. there was a micro format discussion for hCite but this discussion was not brought into hResume. hResume does mark up citations but not with as much detail as say CoinS. Ideally, utilities like Zotero would be able to pic up citations from CVs as well.
- hugh paterson

On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:

> That's quite a good list of resources Dan!
> 
> Specifically, you mentioned:
> 
>> As usual, the Microformats community have already been quite active in
>> researching this topic; you should check out
>> http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats and if you prefer to keep
>> notes in their (public domain licensed) wiki, that's great; just drop
>> in a link from the W3C page. Or add to both.
> 
> I'd like to reiterate that invitation to everyone, please feel free to
> add any known/previous formats for resumes to existing public domain
> microformats research on the subject, and use existing research as you
> see fit - that's what it's there for as a community resource:
> 
> http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats
> 
> 
> But there's one big link that Dan surprisingly missed: hResume
> 
> http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume
> 
> Developed using aforementioned research in combination with research
> on actual resume publishing practices on the web.
> 
> 
> Two key things here:
> 
> 
> 1. hResume is the most published resume format on the web (for several
> years now)
> 
> http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-examples-in-wild
> 
> from over 10 million resumes on LinkedIn - all marked up with hResume
> to numerous long tail examples, tons of individuals who've posted
> their resumes online with hResume.
> 
> If you're looking at writing a resume search or similar application,
> that's a good place to start.
> 
> 
> 2. hResume is also well implemented, with numerous generating and
> parsing/consuming applications/sites.
> E.g the Guardian's jobs/resume aggregator site imports hResumes:
> http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/profile/
> More listed here:
> 
> http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume#Implementations
> 
> 
> Take a look and see if hResume works for your Curriculum Vitae
> (resumé) schema purposes, if it doesn't please send feedback about
> what problems/issues you run into so that it can be improved
> accordingly.
> 
> As this is already a vocabulary (and format) in wide usage, I'm cc-ing
> microformats-discuss for feedback/iteration.
> 
> Feel free to join irc://irc.freenode.net/microformats for more
> real-time follow-up/discussion.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tantek
> 
> 
> 2011/10/7 Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>:
>> +Cc: Uldis, who worked on this topic a while back
>> 
>> 2011/10/7 George Katsanos <gkatsanos@gmail.com>:
>>> Dear all,
>>> Wouldn't it be possible to have a schema "template" (type?) for semantically
>>> describing CV's? It would also be a good opportunity for the job recruiting
>>> market to adopt this standard as currently the situation is chaotic between
>>> different file formats.
>> 
>> There has been a little discussion of this already, e.g.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/schemaorg-discussion/browse_thread/thread/b7b6f259bd726047/f991c2097fd08667?lnk=gst&q=CV#f991c2097fd08667
>> 
>> Let's break this into two parts. First, what's out there in terms of
>> existing vocabularies, standards and data. Secondly, whether the
>> Schema.org project (or others) decide to pick this up and include
>> directly.
>> 
>> Can I persuade you to help test out our new tooling by getting set up
>> with a W3C account (http://www.w3.org/Help/Account/) and doing some
>> background research in the Wiki? Just make a page near
>> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas and link it (we should sort out a
>> category structure at some point...).
>> 
>> Some related work:
>> 
>> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Description_of_a_Career ("designed to
>> be compatible with the European curriculum (Europass) ")
>>  http://schemapedia.com/schemas/doac
>> * http://rdfs.org/resume-rdf/
>> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe/events/foaf-galway/papers/pp/extending_foaf_with_resume/
>> * Europass / CV,
>> http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/europass/home/vernav/Europass+Documents/Europass+CV.csp
>>  http://myeurocv.com/
>> 
>> As usual, the Microformats community have already been quite active in
>> researching this topic; you should check out
>> http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats and if you prefer to keep
>> notes in their (public domain licensed) wiki, that's great; just drop
>> in a link from the W3C page. Or add to both.
>> 
>> The hardest problem here will be scoping. We will want some way of
>> describing topics of people's expertise, without including a giant
>> enumeration of all skill areas.
>> 
>> A few brief points:
>> 
>> SKOS
>> I'd encourage the use of SKOS here, since the library world have
>> already created a collaborative map of most of these topics, via
>> thesauri and subject classification schemes, most of which are now
>> being shared in RDF via SKOS. So for example, see
>> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets or
>> http://thedatahub.org/dataset?tags=format-skos to see a high level
>> overview of the SKOS datasets that are out there. In SKOS, we already
>> have the Library of Congress assigning the URI
>> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85086421#concept to the notion of
>> "Model Theory". So if someone (e.g. Pat Hayes) wanted to record such
>> expertise in their CV/resume, ideally we could re-use such a list of
>> topics (and some would build nice auto-completion tooling to support
>> data entry).
>> 
>> LRMI
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/LRMI
>> "The Learning Resource Metadata Initiative is a project co-led by the
>> Association of Educational Publishers and Creative Commons to build a
>> common metadata vocabulary for educational resources."
>> ...the overlap here is around describing skills and topics of
>> expertise; either those required to understand some learning materials
>> (eg. what knowledge do I need, to understand
>> http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/video-lectures/
>> ? or what knowledge have I gained, if I do the online class at
>> http://ml-class.org/ ?)
>> 
>> ODF 1.2
>> http://rdfa.info/2011/10/06/odf-1-2-approved-as-standard-now-with-rdfa/
>> http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/09/odf12-approved.html
>> "Open Document Format (ODF) 1.2 has been approved.  It is now an OASIS
>> Standard."
>> It uses RDFa, see
>> http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/10/odf-enters-semantic-web.html
>> ... real world resumes and CVs are created using wordprocessing tools.
>> It would be worthwhile looking at the related standards in this area,
>> and possibility for tool support e.g. via CV/resume templates.
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, from the Schema.org perspective, if you want to propose
>> something for inclusion, take a look through
>> http://schema.org/docs/full.html to understand where it might fit, how
>> it relates to other areas of vocabulary. But the most important thing
>> is the background research and some practical examples.
>> 
>> I know a lot of folk are interested in this topic and there are a few
>> more projects and initiatives I didn't list in this quick email (e.g.
>> around describing jobs and training opportunities). It is worth
>> collecting up background materials.
>> 
>> With my FOAF project "hat" on, I'd really love to see progress in this
>> area, and think that SKOS is probably the biggest and most interesting
>> contribution that is missing from previous standards work....
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
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