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RE: Updated task force proposal; comments welcome

From: Michael Champion <Michael.Champion@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:38:28 +0000
To: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>, "ij@w3.org" <ij@w3.org>
CC: "public-vision-newstd@w3.org" <public-vision-newstd@w3.org>
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>  I'd suggest that we aren't looking for *all new ideas* related to the Web, that might 
> result in an overload of crazy people. I'm thinking maybe call it the 
> "New Standards Forum@.

How about "New Proposals Forum"  ?  Or "Brainstorming Forum"?  Or something that puts some boundaries on the appropriate discussion, but doesn't restrict it to "standards".  We do NOT want to imply that what comes out of the forum is a "standard",  nor do we want to exclude discussion of test cases, best practices, and other useful work that isn't necessarily a "standard."

Michael Champion

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Subject: Re: Updated task force proposal; comments welcome

I think we should be very upfront about articulating the value proposition of this proposal. So add as an intro:

"As the massive success Web has grown exponentially quickly, the W3C needs to remain the place for new standards. In order to accomplish this, the W3C should crowd-source new standardization and innovation from the entire Web, not just the Team and Members. This community-driven process should allow experimental proposals from anywhere on the Web to percolate in a bottom-up fashion into a W3C Recommendations standards process, allowing both a high amount of maturity and backing for new W3C Recommendation work and decentralizing the workload for the Team and Members."

More open process = Less work and better standards

(well, I hope!)


2.1 and 2.1.4 "New Ideas Forum"

I'd suggest that we aren't looking for *all new ideas* related to the Web, that might result in an overload of crazy people. I'm thinking maybe call it the "New Standards Forum@.

-   Question: Suggest small number of moderators; how are they chosen?
Staff? -> Just have one or more Team Contacts for New Ideas/Standards Forum. The term "moderator" may be a bit harsh for some people, although that is what they will be doing. Maybe let them recruit volunteers.

- 2.1.5 Add a bullet to the Community Group details noting that "Existing groups that form outside the W3C that are hosted informally on other listservs (such as Google Groups) or have their own process may also vote to become W3C community groups and may do so with the help of Communiy Supporters"

This is *important*, as otherwise we exclude all groups and efforts that don't come from the new ideas forum. Given that lots of groups already exist, we want to involve them easily and provide an easy-access point for them.

2.1.6 - Note on Classical standards track. This makes the proposal sound completely incompatible with traditional W3C process. Instead, it's a new and complimentary process. While maybe over time it could replace the classical standards track process, we don't want to paint it as incompatible.

"Note that this process does not mean that the W3C is changing the Working Group process except in minor ways, but simply modifying the existing IG and XG so they can reach their full potential and allow an easy way for communities currently outside the W3C have their work be brought to the W3C and enter the WG process if needs be."

- "Question: Should we reuse the name "Interest" or "Incubator" instead of "Community?" Or is the rebranding useful (and the processes will be sufficiently different that it is worth the new name)?"

Yes.

However, we may want to change a lot of the "do not" such as "do not" have a charter to "may have a charter", and so allow Community groups that want charters and the ability publish reports, W3C Notes, etc. to do so if they are approved to do so explicitly. This would allow existing IGs and XGs to become community groups without changing anything they're doing.
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