- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:46:06 +0000
- To: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D6BC8D47.561A2%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time.
Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180301T10&p1=43
Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local
Joining details:
see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
(members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me)
Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chairs: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!
Regrets: None
Activity since last meeting:
See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!
IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. TTML1 3rd Ed CR, Actions, Third Edition Pull Requests and Issues
2. TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
3. IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
4. IMSC vNext requirements Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
5. CSS Actions Review
6. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present)
7. HDR in PNG (placeholder)
8. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!
Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
March meetings:
Thursday 8th March: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 15th March: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 22nd March: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 29th March: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work
Further ahead:
Thursday 5th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 12th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 19th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 26th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Agenda+ TTML1 3rd Ed CR, Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions – none in Tracker
TTML1 3rd Edition CR – next steps
PROPOSAL: transition to CR of TTML1 3rd Edition based on build available at https://rawgit.com/w3c/ttml1/TTML1-3ED-CR1-build/index.html
Recent Activity
1 Pull request merged by 1 person
* Merged #301 Clarify tts:fontSize semantics<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/301>
3 Issues closed by 2 people
Closed #206 Use of 'em' units in tts:fontSize on region element is not well defined.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/206>
Closed #214 Clarify the semantics of tts:fontSize="2em".<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/214>
Closed #215 Two value percentage fontSize not fully defined.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/215>
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Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)
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3 Pull requests proposed by 1 person
Proposed #343 TTML1 3ED CR<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/343>
Proposed #344 Wrap overflow example lines (#341)<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/344>
Proposed #345 Apply TTML1 2ED errata<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/345>
New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to Discuss
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
No new issues opened.
No issues marked for the agenda
Links
TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda
TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues
Agenda+ TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
Recent Activity
1 Pull request merged by 1 person
Merged #677 Add missing at-risk feature to SoTD as resolved (#676).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/677>
1 Issue closed by 1 person
Closed #676 Marking tts:ipd at risk.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/676>
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Pull Requests open for review (to discuss if requested):
2 Pull requests proposed by 1 person
Proposed #681 Fix typos (#678).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/681>
Proposed #682 Add missing feature designations (#680).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/682>
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5 pull requests open for longer (labelled as CR2):
Proposed #650 Specify font loading semantics (#368).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/650>
Proposed #651 Update requirements for claim of document (content) compliance (#495).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/651>
Proposed #652 Resolve confusion between default and implicit (#590).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/652>
Proposed #655 Refactor and refine non-terminal syntax for profile designators (#365, #366).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/655>
Proposed #665 Clarify that metadata has no presentation semantics (#656).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/665>
New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss:
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda
4 Issues created by 2 people
Opened #683 Profile related features should be optional<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/683>
Opened #680 Missing feature designations in Table E-1.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/680>
Opened #679 Add missing feature designations.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/679>
Opened #678 Fix typos.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/678>
Issues marked as Agenda:
#683 Profile related features should be optional <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/683> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> substantive<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Asubstantive>
Pull requests marked as Agenda:
None at this time
Links
Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170630/
Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
Agenda+ IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-509<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/509>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/509/edit> open Propose liaison text for the imsc 1.1 fpwd<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/509> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2017-10-12 TTML IMSC 2.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/10>
Recent Activity
IMSC 1.0.1 Proposed Recommendation was published on Tuesday 27th February 2018: https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.0.1/
1 Pull request merged by 1 person
Merged #330 Remove recommendations on time expressions and ttp:cellResolution<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/330>
4 Issues closed by 2 people
Closed #329 consider removing recommendations that do not appear to address a technical problem<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/329>
Closed #327 Remove Editor's note in scope and update last bullet point<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/327>
Closed #311 Prohibit usesForced named metadata item<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/311>
Closed #323 Update to Process 2018<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/323>
Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)
No new pull requests.
2 pull requests open for longer:
Proposed #322 Port IMSC1.0.1 fixes<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/322> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #326 Add explanatory text on profiles and processors<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/326> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
New (and old) Issues to Discuss
7 issues labelled as agenda (also likely to be discussed in the imminent APA / TTWG joint meeting):
APA comment: align altText restrictions with HTML alt attribute <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/321> WR-open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3AWR-open> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda>horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
APA comment: richer semantic layers than forcedDisplay allows <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/320> WR-open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3AWR-open> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda>horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
APA comment: permit font related features in Image profile <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/319> WR-open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3AWR-open> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review>imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
APA comment: specify association between image and text profile documents <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/318> WR-open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3AWR-open>agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
APA comment: Meet WCAG SC 1.4.1 requirement <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/317> WR-open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3AWR-open> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
APA comment: presentation customisation <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/316> WR-open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3AWR-open> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
APA comment: Improve introduction <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/315> WR-open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3AWR-open> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1> pr open<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22pr+open%22>
No new issues created
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Links
IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda :
IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked
IMSC 1.0.1
Editor's draft is directly viewable at http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
IMSC 1.0.1 PR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/PR-ttml-imsc1.0.1-20180227/
IMSC 1 Rec available at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/
Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html
IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests
IMSC 1.1 FPWD: https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml-imsc1.1-20171017/
Unicode CLDR discussion
Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
Agenda+ IMSC vNext Requirements
Links
IMSCvNext Requirements editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/imsc-vnext-reqs/
IMSCvNext Requirements repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs
Recent Activity
(none)
Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)
3 Pull requests open for longer than a week:
* Proposed #16 Constrain text emphasis position to 'outside'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/16>
* Proposed #17 Specify deprecation model<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/17>
Proposed #12 List features that are excluded from deprecation requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/12>
PROPOSAL: Publish IMSC v1.1 Requirements as a WG Note
Links
IMSC Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/agenda :
IMSC Requirements issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/blocked
Agenda+ CSS actions review
Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed?
See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html
CSS WG review
Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35
Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html
This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements
TAG design review issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138
CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
Agenda+ WebVTT
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
ACTION-502<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502/edit> open Explain to david that we need a more consistent disposition of comments for webvtt.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502> Thierry Michel 2017-08-10 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
Links
WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
Activity
3 Pull requests merged by 1 person
Merged #410 Add a paragraph about the reasons why limiting styles.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/410>
Merged #418 Class override<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/418>
Merged #420 Cue setting clarifications<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/420>
3 Issues closed by 2 people
Closed #373 Wide Review Comment 2017: future styling options mechanism<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/373>
Closed #384 Wide Review Comment 2017: Algorithmic specification<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/384>
Closed #372 Wide Review Comment 2017: default background colour<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/372>
1 Issue created by 1 person
* Opened #428 Typo in "4.2.2. WebVTT caption or subtitle cue text" section<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/428>
2 Pull requests open
Agenda+ HDR in PNG [placeholder agenda item]
Links
We published this Note at https://www.w3.org/TR/png-hdr-pq/ (republished 25th July incorporating fix for typo)
Repo for PQ HDR in PNG: https://github.com/w3c/png-hdr-pq
Draft WG Note: https://w3c.github.io/png-hdr-pq/
Activity
None
Agenda+ AOB
References
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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