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Re: IMSC1.0.1 schemas as a WG Note now

From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 10:14:50 -0700
Message-ID: <CAF_7JxBWQZ3Qf+i2PQj8QPncqv46ETJcuEg5djxSQGnUP4kBQA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Cc: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>, Michael Dolan <mike@dolan.tv>, "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
Hi Thierry,

> Publishing those XSD in the W3C space (out of TR) is easy. It is a stable URI. It has been used for years.

Can you give an example of a resource "in the W3C space (out of TR)"?

What is the process for modifying such resources that are referenced in a REC?

Thanks,

-- Pierre

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
> Please let's have a simple process here.
>
> Publishing those XSD in the W3C space (out of TR) is easy. It is a stable
> URI. It has been used for years.
>
> I prefer this than publishing in Github, which may not be stable and is not
> user frendly.
>
> Thierry
>
>
>
>
> Le 24/06/2017 à 18:26, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Nigel,
>>
>> It sounds like we are inventing a new process when the WG Note process
>> already exists.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -- Pierre
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 24 Jun 2017, at 17:20, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>>
>>>>> Why the complexity here?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am concerned that modifying the github repo can be done by any
>>>> number of folks, including by mistake.
>>>
>>>
>>> It can; I would suggest tagging a release when we have a known good state
>>> (as far as we are aware at that time) and declaring the current operational
>>> release tag in a protected master branch readme file.
>>>
>>> Then any change would only be reflected in a new release by explicit
>>> decision, which could be by Group consensus.
>>>
>>> Nigel
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Revising a WG Note requires group consensus.
>>>>
>>>> I am open to other options.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Why the complexity here? Can't we just publish the GitHub repo details
>>>>> and host them directly from there? That makes them much easier to use and
>>>>> update.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nigel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Jun 2017, at 06:45, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>> We don't necessarly need to have a WG Note for this.
>>>>>> We can publish the current schemas files on the W3C site (out of TR)
>>>>>> and that will be good enough. No over burdon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose to host those schemas at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/IMSC/ttml-imsc1.0.1/xml-schemas/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and change the link in the spec to this URI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 24/06/2017 à 01:04, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> put the schemas in a WG Note now and reference it before publishing
>>>>>>>> IMSC1.0.1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok with me. I would create a separate directory on the IMSC github
>>>>>>> repo to host the WG Note and XSD collection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy to do this by Monday COB, in time for approval on Thursday and
>>>>>>> the IMSC1.0.1 CR transition, unless significant concerns are raised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This switch might not even be substantive since the XSD are
>>>>>>> informative in IMSC1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael Dolan <mike@dolan.tv>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Given the apparent process challenges for updating the informative
>>>>>>>> schemas
>>>>>>>> for IMSC1, I’d like to propose that we do that before publication of
>>>>>>>> IMSC1.0.1 – put the schemas in a WG Note now and reference it before
>>>>>>>> publishing IMSC1.0.1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael A DOLAN
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Del Mar, CA 92014
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1-858-882-7497
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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