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{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2016-05-12

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 17:15:40 +0000
To: TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chair: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!

Regrets: none

Activity since last meeting:
Actions: none

IMSC:
Merged PRs: removed names <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/180> .
Closed Issues: none.
New and Discussed Issues: none.
Open PRs: Add IMSC roadmap document<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/176>.

TTML1 & 2 :
Editing Process and Pull Request discussion on reflector;
New ED generated – here is latest Editor's Draft<https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html>
Merged PRs: none; (multiple commits<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/commits/master> made to master branch directly)
Open PRs: none.
New and discussed issues: none.

Timed Text Profile Registry:
Merged PRs: Adds an abstract<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/16>
Open PRs: none.
New and discussed issues:
Describe Registry Path and Value section<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/13>;


TTML/WebVTT mapping:
Examples provided by IRT;
Merged PRs: none;
Open PRs: none;
New and discussed issues: definition of region in example 42 is probably not correct<https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/issues/24>; wrong separator used in CSS examples<https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/issues/23>; close tag missing in example 34<https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/issues/22>; suggested position alignment value "start" does not exist in WebVTT<https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/issues/21>; vertical alignment using cue settings<https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/issues/20>; Mapping is only for presentation, i.e. subtitle and captions, and other types of WebVTT document are possible<https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/issues/15>; Should be a subset of IMSC1<https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/issues/14>

WebVTT:
0 PRs merged; 2 PRs open; 0 issues created: discussion via github

Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/

We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!

IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse

TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse

TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse

TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse

TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse

WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse


Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. Action Items
2. TPAC 2016
3. IMSC 1
4. TTML2 issues, actions, PRs etc
5. Profile registry
6. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
7. Charter
8. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
9. Unicode liaison
10. WebVTT comments
11. TTML Versions note
12. Change proposals
13. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

May Meetings:
Thursday 19th May: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 26th May: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Further ahead:

IMSC and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_IMSC1.2C_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work


June Meetings:
Thursday 2nd June: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour (NM not available to chair)
Thursday 9th June: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 16th June: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour (NM not available to chair)
Thursday 23rd June: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour (NM not available to chair)
Thursday 30th June: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour


Agenda+ Action items

This week I've put all the actions in their relevant agenda section.

Agenda+ TPAC 2016

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-464<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/464>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/464/edit>     pending review  Ask ttwg who would really prefer to be able to attend web & tv ig as well as ttwg at tpac 2016<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/464>    Nigel Megitt    2016-05-05

Draft schedule: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/schedule.html



Agenda+ Charter

Current charter extended by 2 months to allow proposed charter to be reviewed by AC.
Proposed 2016 Charter on github can be viewed at http://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/timed-text-charter-2016.html

Repository is at https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/ - to file a PR please fork first, since we cannot grant access to the repository to all for creating branches.
2014 Charter is at http://www.w3.org/2014/03/timed-text-charter.html


Agenda+ IMSC

Editor's draft is directly viewable at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html

IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.


ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-461<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/461>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/461/edit>     open    Add an acknowledgment section to the imsc 1 errata section.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/461>       Thierry Michel  2016-04-28


ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-466<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/466>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/466/edit>     open    Review notes to see who if anyone should be added to imsc acknowledgements for special thanks.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/466>    Nigel Megitt    2016-05-05      TTML IMSC 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/7>



Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc

What steps remain to publish the TTML2 WD?

Placeholder for a short discussion on the pull request process following the reflector discussion.

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-386<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386/edit>     open    Investigate whether region style inheritance from tt is necessary given the ability to redefine initial values<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>    Glenn Adams     2015-04-17      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit>     open    Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>   Glenn Adams     2015-11-05      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-458<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/458>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/458/edit>     open    Create issue re: line height calculation for inline<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/458>       Glenn Adams     2016-04-07      TTML 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/1>
ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit>     open    Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>   Glenn Adams     2016-04-28      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>

See spreadsheet of actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx


Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md


More volunteers welcomed!

Agenda+ Profiles registry.

Working Group Note published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/


ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-468<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/468>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/468/edit>     open    Add link to the ttml profiles registry page from the ttwg home page<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/468>       Philippe Le Hégaret     2016-05-12
ACTION-469<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/469>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/469/edit>     open    Publish the ttml profiles registry as a note and begin the iana registry process<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/469>  Philippe Le Hégaret     2016-05-12

https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry

http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/


https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry


Thread beginning at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Aug/0036.html


Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document

Editor's Draft is at https://rawgit.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/master/mappingbetweenTTMLandWebVTTW3C.html


Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-441<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit>     open    Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>      Andreas Tai     2015-11-05


See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for further information on this, this week.

[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ Unicode liaison.

Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915


Note that this was updated after IMSC 1 Recommendation publication as per Action-457.

[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ Issues

See pulse links at the top for a quick view into the active issues.

Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>     open    Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>   David Singer    2015-04-17      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>

Placeholder for discussion on WebVTT review feedback.

Agenda+ Note on TTML versions

Draft at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/5ee90ec0d897/ttml-status/index.html

Reminder to all to review this and provide feedback to Cyril.

Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review

Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex


The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are:

5       OPEN    2       Jerry Smith     TTML2   HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
7       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
9       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  IMSC2   Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
11      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
15      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
17      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
21      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
25      OPEN    2       Nigel Megitt    TTML2   Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>

Agenda+ AOB

References

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText


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