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RE: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2016-08-04

From: Michael Dolan <mdolan@newtbt.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 07:11:19 -0700
To: "'Timed Text Working Group'" <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <02e201d1ee5a$131c8ac0$3955a040$@newtbt.com>
Regrets.  I have not completed the media type note but will next week.

 

From: Nigel Megitt [mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 1:11 AM
To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Subject: Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2016-08-04

 

Thanks to David Ronca for noticing that the link to the TTML WebVTT mapping editor’s draft is wrong.  

 

It should be: http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/ 

 

Nigel

 

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On 2 Aug 2016, at 17:02, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk <mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> > wrote:

 

 

This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time. 

 

Hoping to talk about time…

 

Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.

 

Please check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160804T10 <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160804T10&p1=43> &p1=43 

 

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Agenda+ Assign Roles

 

Chair: Nigel Megitt

 

Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!

 

Regrets: Andreas

 

Activity since last meeting: 

Actions:  <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475> ACTION-475

 

IMSC:  

Merged PRs: none.

Closed Issues: none.

New and Discussed Issues: none.


Open PRs: Add IMSC roadmap document <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/176> .


 


TTML1 & 2 :


Merged PRs: none; (and no commits)

Open PRs:  


 <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/167> Disallow duplicate absolutized designators in ttp:{content,processor}…;  <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/172> Issue 0171 br in timecontainer list.


New and discussed issues: 

 <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/173> Add Safe Crop Area ;  <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/171> br is omitted from timeContainer list;  <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/170> Allow lwsp around quantified designator list in ttp:{content,processor}Profiles; (also see 
https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/wiki/Time and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/wiki/Nigel's-TTML-and-SMIL-walkthrough where time issues and not-officially-issues have been collated)


 


Timed Text Profile Registry: 


Merged PRs:  none

Open PRs: none.

New and discussed issues: none.

 

 


TTML/WebVTT mapping:


Merged PRs: none;

Open PRs: none;

New and discussed issues: none.

 


WebVTT:


0 PR merged; 2 PRs open; 0 issues created, 0 issue closed: discussion via github

 


Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/


We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.

Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!

 

IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse

TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse

TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse

TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse

TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse

WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse

 

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

 

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:

1. TPAC 2016

2. TTML2 issues, actions, PRs etc

3. Profile registry

4. IMSC

5. TTML and WebVTT mapping document

6. Progress on HTMLCue proposal

7. Unicode liaison

8. WebVTT comments

9. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!

 

 

Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

 

August Meetings:

Thursday 11th August: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Thursday 18th August: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Thursday 25th August: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour (NM on vacation)

 

Further ahead:

 

IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work 

 

Agenda+ TPAC 2016

 


ID

State

Title

Person

Due Date

Associated with


ACTION-475 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475>  <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475/edit> 

open

Contact the chair of the web  <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475> & tv ig to ask about schedule and joint meeting time.

Nigel Megitt

2016-07-28

	

 

Draft schedule: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/schedule.html 

 

Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc

 


ID

State

Title

Person

Due Date

Associated with


ACTION-462 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>  <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> 

open

Create issue on ttml2 to add  <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"

Glenn Adams

2016-04-28

TTML2 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> 

 

Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues 

 

Collated time related issues for TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/wiki/Time

 

Safe Crop Area Proposal –  now raised as  <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/173> Add Safe Crop Area on github

 

 

See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx 

 

Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md

 

More volunteers welcomed!

 

TTML Change Proposals – progress and review

 

Change Proposal Index is at  <http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex 

 

The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are:

 


5

OPEN

2

Jerry Smith

TTML2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005> HTML5 Mapping semantics


7

OPEN

2

Pierre-Anthony Lemieux

TTML2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007> 3D extensions


9

OPEN

2

Pierre-Anthony Lemieux

IMSC2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009> Complexity model


11

OPEN

2

Pierre-Anthony Lemieux

TTML2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011> Metadata vocab


15

OPEN

2

Glenn Adams

TTML2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015> Style.CSS additions


17

OPEN

2

Glenn Adams

TTML2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017> Style.Defaults


19

OPEN

2

Glenn Adams

TTML2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019> Style.Syntax fixes


21

OPEN

2

Pierre-Anthony Lemieux

TTML2

 <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021> Typography.I18n


25

OPEN

2

Nigel Megitt

TTML2

Distribution <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025> 

Agenda+ Profiles registry.

 

Working Group Note published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/

 

https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry

http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/

 

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry 

 

Agenda+ IMSC

 

Editor's draft is directly viewable at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html

IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.

 

Press release for IMSC 1 Recommendation and TTML2 WD publication linked from w3.org <http://w3.org/>  home page and archived via https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/5445?pk_campaign=feed <https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/5445?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=world-wide-web-consortium-w3c-expands-emmy-award-winning-work-on-captions-and-subtitles-for-more-accessible-video-content> &pk_kwd=world-wide-web-consortium-w3c-expands-emmy-award-winning-work-on-captions-and-subtitles-for-more-accessible-video-content

 

Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document

 

Editor's Draft is at https://rawgit.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/master/mappingbetweenTTMLandWebVTTW3C.html

 

Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.

 


ID

State

Title

Person

Due Date

Associated with


ACTION-441 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>  <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> 

open

Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea. <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> 

Andreas Tai

2015-11-05

	

 

See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for further information on this, this week.

 

[placeholder agenda item]

 

Agenda+ Unicode liaison.

 

Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915

 

Note that this was updated after IMSC 1 Recommendation publication as per Action-457.

 

[placeholder agenda item]

 

Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback

 


 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> 
ACTION-473 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> 

open

Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on vtt; need an action plan <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> 

Thierry Michel

2016-06-30

 


ID

State

Title

Person

Due Date

Associated with


ACTION-396 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>  <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> 

open

Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396> 

David Singer

2015-04-17

WebVTT 1.0 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8> 

 

Placeholder for discussion on WebVTT review feedback.

 

Agenda+ AOB

 

References

 

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText

 

 

 

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