{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2015-10-01

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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chair: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: [to assign during meeting]

Regrets:

Activity since last meeting (which was less recent than usual!):
Actions: Action-424, Action-425, Action-426, Action-427, Action-428;
Issues discussed: Issue-418, Issue-423, Issue-424, Issue-428, Issue-433, Issue-434;
Issues raised: Issue-414, Issue-447.

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. Action Items
2. TPAC 2015
3. IMSC 1 Test Suite and Implementation Report
4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
6. Unicode liaison
7. @codecs registry
8. Issues
9. WebVTT comments
10. TTML2 Editorial actions
11. TTML Versions note
12. Change proposals
13. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

October Meetings:
Thursday 8th October: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 15th October: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 22nd October: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 29th October: TPAC face to face meeting all day
Friday 30th October: TPAC face to face meeting all day

Further ahead:

IMSC and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_IMSC1.2C_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work


October Meetings:
Thursday 5th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 12th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 19th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 26th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Agenda+ Action items

Action items due – see relevant sections below.

Action items pending review – see relevant sections below.

Action items overdue
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-364<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364/edit>     open    Add paragraph in intro that summarizes changes from ttml1 (comment from tm)<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364>       Glenn Adams     2015-04-17      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-383<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383/edit>     open    Missing XML declaration<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383>   Glenn Adams     2015-04-30      TTML 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/1>
ACTION-384<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384/edit>     open    Ensure consistency in ttml2 w.r.t. inline progression dimension vs direction<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384>      Glenn Adams     2015-04-16      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-386<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386/edit>     open    Investigate whether region style inheritance from tt is necessary given the ability to redefine initial values<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>    Glenn Adams     2015-04-17      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-404<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404/edit>     open    Add note to issue 341 to reflect his current thinking<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404>     Glenn Adams     2015-06-11      ISSUE-341<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/341>
ACTION-421<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/421>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/421/edit>     open    Check with ttml player manufacturers if they're happy to be listed on our site.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/421>   Nigel Megitt    2015-09-24
NB Various other actions are in their relevant sections below.

Agenda+ TPAC 2015

Placeholder agenda item in preparation for TPAC 2015 in Sapporo.

Advanced registration is now open for TPAC. See http://www.w3.org/2015/10/TPAC/ for further details.
The schedule is at http://www.w3.org/2015/10/TPAC/schedule


Our wiki page is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2015


Agenda+ IMSC CR2, Test Suite and Implementation Report

IMSC test suite and Implementation Report https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_Implementation_Report.



ACTION-424<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/424>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/424/edit>     open    Download and upload to implementation report page the test render mp4<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/424>     Thierry Michel  2015-10-01

ACTION-425<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/425>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/425/edit>     open    Send a prompt/thank you to the potential test result contributors for imsc.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/425>       Thierry Michel  2015-10-01



Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml-webvtt-mapping/mappingbetweenTTMLandWebVTTW3C.html


ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-427<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/427>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/427/edit>     pending review  Write up an issue for webvtt for chapterisation etc.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/427>      Nigel Megitt    2015-10-01      Other types of track are possible<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/447>


ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-447<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/447>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/447/edit>
Other types of track are possible       RAISED  Mapping is only for presentation, i.e. subtitle and captions, and other types of WebVTT document are possible<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/447>      2015-09-25      TTML WebVTT mapping note        0




ACTION-426<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/426>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/426/edit>     open    Tmichel to work with courtney to get the ttml webvtt mapping to look right with respec<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/426>    Thierry Michel  2015-10-01




ISSUE-415<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/415>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/415/edit>
TTML2   PENDING REVIEW  TTML2 is confusing<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/415> 2015-09-18      TTML WebVTT mapping note        0

Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.

[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ Unicode liaison.

Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915


[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ @codecs registry.

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CodecsRegistry


Thread beginning at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Aug/0036.html



ACTION-428<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/428>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/428/edit>     open    Check if we can update the ttml iana media registration in a standalone note or if we need to do it in a rec<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/428>      Thierry Michel  2015-10-01



Agenda+ Issues

Issues Raised
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-414<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/414>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/414/edit>        RAISED  tts:direction should apply independently to paragraph (p)<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/414>  2015-09-09      TTML2   0


Issues Pending Review
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-404<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/404>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/404/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Where is #image feature defined?<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/404>   2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-405<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/405>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/405/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  why is #nested-span prohibited on image profile?<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/405>   2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-407<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/407>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/407/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Excluding #bidi and #direction on image profile is inconsistent<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/407>    2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-408<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/408>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/408/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Initial value of color<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/408>     2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-409<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/409>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/409/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Font family of default means monospaceSerif<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/409>        2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-410<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/410>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/410/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Constraints on #linePadding and #multiRowAlign<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/410>     2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-411<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/411>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/411/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  "shall be inherited" on #multiRowAlign<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/411>     2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-412<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/412>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/412/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  The term 'SHALL' should not be used in the definition of Related Video Object<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/412>      2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-419<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/419>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/419/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Overflow recommendations + #overflow feature<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/419>       2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-420<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/420>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/420/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  The TTML timing vocabulary does not have elements<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/420>  2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-421<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/421>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/421/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Term "earlier" is ambiguous<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/421>        2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-422<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/422>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/422/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Presented region + itts:forcedDisplay<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/422>      2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-424<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/424>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/424/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Awkward text re: smpte:backgroundImage dimensions<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/424>  2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-425<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/425>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/425/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Awkward prose re: smpte:backgroundImage and ittm:altText<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/425>   2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-426<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/426>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/426/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  MHP vs W3C reference for PNG<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/426>       2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-427<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/427>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/427/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Misc prose tweaks<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/427>  2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-430<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/430>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/430/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  independent variables in the HRM<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/430>   2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-432<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/432>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/432/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Multiple layers of background color in HRM<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/432> 2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-433<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/433>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/433/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Presented image definition<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/433> 2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-434<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/434>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/434/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Behavior in case of multiple images in a region<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/434>    2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0

There are 62 open issues listed in the system.

Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback

ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>     open    Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>   David Singer    2015-04-17      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>

Placeholder for discussion on WebVTT review feedback.

Agenda+ Note on TTML versions

Draft at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/5ee90ec0d897/ttml-status/index.html

Reminder to all to review this and provide feedback to Cyril.

Agenda+ TTML2 editorial actions

See spreadsheet of actions at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml2/spec/ednotes.xlsx


Edit/build instructions now in README.txt in ttml2/spec/ at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/file/tip/ttml2/spec/README.txt


More volunteers welcomed!

Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review

Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex


The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are:

5       OPEN    2       Jerry Smith     TTML2   HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
7       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
9       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  IMSC2   Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
11      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
15      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
17      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
21      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
25      OPEN    2       Nigel Megitt    TTML2   Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>

Agenda+ AOB



References

Tracker <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker%C2%A0> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/><http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker%C2%A0>/<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/>
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText

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