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{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2015-11-19

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 21:16:24 +0000
To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D2729B20.2C2A2%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chair: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: [to assign during meeting]

Regrets:

Activity since last meeting:
Actions: Action-449;
Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/

Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!

Recent activity on deliverables:
Pull Requests: (WebVTT pull requests handled offline)
IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/87; https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/88;

TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/143

WebVTT: 7 PRs: discussion via github

IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse

TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse

TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse

TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse

WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse


Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. Action Items
2. IMSC 1 Test Suite and Implementation Report
3. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
4. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
5. Unicode liaison
6. Profile registry
7. Issues
8. WebVTT comments
9. TTML2 Editorial actions
10. TTML Versions note
11. Change proposals
12. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

November Meetings:
Thursday 26th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Further ahead:

IMSC and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_IMSC1.2C_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work


December Meetings:
Thursday 3rd December: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 10th December: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 17th December: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

January Meetings:
Thursday 7th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 14th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 21st January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 28th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour


Agenda+ Action items


There are 2 pending review actions.

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-448<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/448>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/448/edit>     pending review  Put timing diagrams somewhere they can be reviews<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/448> Nigel Megitt    2015-11-06      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-449<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/449>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/449/edit>     pending review  Create board for ttwg similar to that for webperf<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/449> Philippe Le Hégaret     2015-11-19

Action items overdue:
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-364<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364/edit>     open    Add paragraph in intro that summarizes changes from ttml1 (comment from tm)<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364>       Glenn Adams     2015-04-17      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-383<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383/edit>     open    Missing XML declaration<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383>   Glenn Adams     2015-04-30      TTML 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/1>
ACTION-384<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384/edit>     open    Ensure consistency in ttml2 w.r.t. inline progression dimension vs direction<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384>      Glenn Adams     2015-04-16      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-386<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386/edit>     open    Investigate whether region style inheritance from tt is necessary given the ability to redefine initial values<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>    Glenn Adams     2015-04-17      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>     open    Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>   David Singer    2015-04-17      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
ACTION-404<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404/edit>     open    Add note to issue 341 to reflect his current thinking<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404>     Glenn Adams     2015-06-11      ISSUE-341<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/341>
ACTION-429<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/429>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/429/edit>     open    Draft a wg note for the profile short name registry and ttml media type registration<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/429>      Mike Dolan      2015-10-08
ACTION-438<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/438>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/438/edit>     open    Correct feature use of #time-clock in TVTT profile<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/438>        Andreas Tai     2015-11-01      #time-clock in tvtt<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/437>
ACTION-439<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/439>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/439/edit>     open    Use of generic font family name "serif" should be allowed<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/439> Andreas Tai     2015-11-01      Generic font-family names in TVTT<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/435>
ACTION-441<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit>     open    Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>      Andreas Tai     2015-11-05
ACTION-442<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/442>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/442/edit>     open    Add an issue to ttml2 for ensuring plain text accessibility<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/442>       Nigel Megitt    2015-11-05
ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit>     open    Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>   Glenn Adams     2015-11-05
ACTION-445<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/445>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/445/edit>     open    Propose to mdolan this addition to the profile registry document.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/445> Andreas Tai     2015-11-06
ACTION-447<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/447>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/447/edit>     open    Send pierre the list of which scripts are simple and which are complex.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/447>   Glenn Adams     2015-11-06

Agenda+ IMSC CR2, Test Suite and Implementation Report

Editor's draft is now directly viewable at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html

IMSC test suite and Implementation Report https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_Implementation_Report.


Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document

Note this has not yet been migrated to git.

For now:
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml-webvtt-mapping/mappingbetweenTTMLandWebVTTW3C.html


Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.

[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ Unicode liaison.

Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915


[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ Profiles registry.

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry


Thread beginning at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Aug/0036.html


Agenda+ Issues

See pulse links at the top for a quick view into the active issues.

Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback

Placeholder for discussion on WebVTT review feedback.

Agenda+ Note on TTML versions

Draft at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/5ee90ec0d897/ttml-status/index.html

Reminder to all to review this and provide feedback to Cyril.

Agenda+ TTML2 editorial actions

See spreadsheet of actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx


Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md


How do we replace keywords replacement from Mercurial for building TTML2?

More volunteers welcomed!

Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review

Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex


The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are:

5       OPEN    2       Jerry Smith     TTML2   HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
7       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
9       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  IMSC2   Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
11      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
15      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
17      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
21      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
25      OPEN    2       Nigel Megitt    TTML2   Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>

Agenda+ AOB

References

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText



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