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Re: WebVTT Working to be published with new publication tool (Echidna).

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:02:37 +0200
Message-ID: <55843D1D.5070101@w3.org>
To: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
CC: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Philip J├Ągenstedt <philipj@opera.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, W3C Public TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>


On 19/06/2015 15:00, Glenn Adams wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org
> <mailto:tmichel@w3.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 19/06/2015 11:44, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>         I'm in favour of using this approach, but I'm going to have to let
>         Philip speak, too, since he has automated the publishing
>         approach for
>         the WebVTT spec.
>
>
>     Sure.
>
>
>         WebVTT is written in respec, so it will be ready to adapt.
>
>
>     good news. should be easy to provide a TR ready WD then.
>
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>         David, I believe you will have to ask the TTWG for approval to
>         take this
>         approach next. The rest should be simple.
>
>
>     Yes that is the way to go.
>     Needs discussion about using a single TTWG approuval for all future
>     WD publications or a TTWG approuval for each future WD publication.
>
>
> I do not expect agreement on a blanket use of the new tool for *all*
> future WDs, e.g., TTML is authored in XML using the xmlspec DTD. This is
> unlikely to change.


I was primary talking about WebVTT. A TTWG agreement for  *all*
future WebVTT WDs vs a TTWG agreement  *each*
time the WG publishes a WebVTT WD.

Now for TTML the use of Echidna is orthogonal to the way the spec is 
produce.

Using Echidna or the current publishing process with the webmaster 
requires in both cases to produce a TR valid document.

It can be done manually or with REspec or using converting scripts, if 
we need to automate the transformation, in the case we plan to publish 
often (which may not be the case).

Best,
Thierry



>
>
>     Best,
>     Thierry
>
>
>
>         Best Regards,
>         Silvia.
>
>         On 19 Jun 2015 6:02 pm, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org
>         <mailto:tmichel@w3.org>
>
>         <mailto:tmichel@w3.org <mailto:tmichel@w3.org>>> wrote:
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>              WebVTT editors and TTWG collegues,
>
>              The W3C has recently provided a new tool for publishing Working
>              Drafts in TR space. This tool (Echidna) provides easy
>         publication
>              without the need of the Webmaster (or Team contact) for the
>         editor.
>
>              WebVTT FPWD last publication was done on Nov 13th 2014. We
>         probably
>              need to republish on TR soon.
>
>              My proposal is to try this new tool for the publication of
>         WebVTT
>              WD. This new publication system is a beta.
>
>              If this tool should ease the publication process, allowing
>              publication by the editor (or Team contact). It requires 4
>         actions:
>
>              1-Approuval of publication with Echidna by the WG.
>              In order for the editor to publish documents using the new
>         process,
>              the TTWG needs to get consensus to do so. The chair will
>         generally
>              put out a Call for Consensus (CFC).
>
>              - Approuval once by the TTWG for any iteration of WebVTT WD
>              publications.
>              This would facilitate publication by the editor without
>         waitting for
>              a TTWG approuval for each publication. On the other hand
>         the TTWG
>              may be less informed of the changes made into the document,
>         before
>              publication in TR, without an approuval for each
>         publication). Maybe
>              a section "changes log" in WebVTT spec would help.
>
>              - other solution is Approuval by the TTWG for each
>         Publication of
>              WebVTT WD publication.
>              This would delay a bit the WD publication in TR, requiring the
>              editor to wait for TTWG approuval for each publication. But
>         it would
>              aallow the TTWG to better monitor the WebVTT publication in TR.
>
>
>              2- Require a token for the spec
>              The first time only, the team contact has to request a
>         token for the
>              spec. Team contact communicates token for spec to editor,
>         who keeps
>              it safe
>
>              Request of token needs to parameter:
>              - specification url: the latest version url of the
>         specification,
>              e.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/<shortname>
>              - source of the specification: for security reasons, a
>         token is also
>              associated with a document origin.
>
>
>              3-The Editor IDs
>              You will need to get the IDs for the Editors of your spec.
>         You can
>              find yours by going to your W3C profile.
>
>              4- Prepare the document
>              Unfortunatly the WebVTT editor's draft in the CG and the WebVTT
>              Working Draft in the TTWG to be published on TR differ:
>
>              - style sheets are different
>              - copyrights are different
>              - Status of this document present in TR version
>              - Dated URI and shortname URIs present in TR version
>              -etc.
>
>              Therefore before trying to publish with Echidna, one must
>         provide a
>              document with the proper above styling and informtion.
>              Are the editors using Respec ? In this case an output to
>         specific TR
>              formatting could be done to have a proper source  document
>         for Echidna.
>
>              The source document to be publish by Echidna needs to pass the
>              validators and purules.
>
>              * Check your spec with new Specberus
>         https://labs.w3.org/pubrules/
>
>
>              * Publishing using Echidna
>
>              Once you have a document, a Group decision, and a token,
>         you can
>              submit your document :
>
>              Publish using reference UI, developed in-house,
>         https://w3.org/publish/
>
>              Provide:
>                  -  Spec URL, eg http://www.w3.org/TR/flux-capacitor
>                  -  Source URL, eg https://w3c.github.io/FluxCapacitorSpec
>
>              For more information for publishing with Echidna
>
>         https://labs.w3.org/echidna/
>         https://github.com/w3c/echidna/wiki
>
>              We should also use this process for TTML2 WD publications.
>              For IMSC1, it isn't possible, Echidna only support WD
>         publications
>              (not FPWG, CR, PR and REC). So we will use the regulr
>         publication
>              process with the webmaster.
>
>              Best,
>
>              Thierry.
>
>
>
>
>
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