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Re: [minutes] TTWG call june 18th 2015

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:30:40 +1000
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2mGuqphS1a--oHp1Rw57FUj3BGRd+fxeToigTMHZiq=xw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
Cc: Public TTWG List <public-tt@w3.org>, Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
Ah I see! Thanks for explaining.
Silvia.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote:
> TextTrackCue has no HTML content or rendering semantics; HTMLCue would be a
> sub-interface of TextTrackCue, like VTTCue;
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> So how is that different from TextTrackCue?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Silvia.
>>
>> On 19 Jun 2015 4:22 am, "Glenn Adams" <glenn@skynav.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Technically, with HTMLCue, a browser would not need to natively support
>>> any particular cue format. But the main use case is to support cue formats
>>> that are not natively supported. This allows an author supplied JS
>>> implementation that supports an otherwise supported cue format.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Quick question: what problem is the HTMLCue supposed to address? I seem
>>>> to have missed any mention or discussion of it before today.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for clarifying.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Silvia.
>>>>
>>>> On 19 Jun 2015 1:07 am, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> The minutes of the TTWG  Teleconference dated 2015-06-18 are now
>>>>> available at
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-minutes.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your
>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thierry Michel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    [1]W3C
>>>>>
>>>>>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>                                - DRAFT -
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
>>>>>
>>>>> 18 Jun 2015
>>>>>
>>>>>    See also: [2]IRC log
>>>>>
>>>>>       [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-irc
>>>>>
>>>>> Attendees
>>>>>
>>>>>    Present
>>>>>           pal, thierry, glenn
>>>>>
>>>>>    Regrets
>>>>>    Chair
>>>>>           pal
>>>>>
>>>>>    Scribe
>>>>>           pal
>>>>>
>>>>> Contents
>>>>>
>>>>>      * [3]Topics
>>>>>          1. [4]Action Items
>>>>>          2. [5]Issues
>>>>>          3. [6]IMSC1 Status
>>>>>          4. [7]HTML Cue
>>>>>      * [8]Summary of Action Items
>>>>>      __________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Date: 18 June 2015
>>>>>
>>>>>    <glenn> +Present glenn
>>>>>
>>>>> Action Items
>>>>>
>>>>>    [9]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364
>>>>>
>>>>>       [9] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364
>>>>>
>>>>>    Glenn: no update
>>>>>
>>>>>    [10]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383
>>>>>
>>>>>      [10] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383
>>>>>
>>>>>    [11]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384
>>>>>
>>>>>      [11] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384
>>>>>
>>>>>    [12]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386
>>>>>
>>>>>      [12] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386
>>>>>
>>>>>    [13]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404
>>>>>
>>>>>      [13] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404
>>>>>
>>>>>    Glenn: no update
>>>>>
>>>>>    [14]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/387
>>>>>
>>>>>      [14] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/387
>>>>>
>>>>>    pal: started the process but not done
>>>>>
>>>>>    [15]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/388
>>>>>
>>>>>      [15] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/388
>>>>>
>>>>>    tmichel: initial draft completed. bugs remain. welcomes review
>>>>>    and feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>>    [16]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396
>>>>>
>>>>>      [16] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396
>>>>>
>>>>>    tmichel: wiki setup at
>>>>>    [17]http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>>>>    ... some dates are missing perhaps
>>>>>    ... so not clear if all comments were on the FPWD
>>>>>
>>>>>      [17] http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>>>>
>>>>>    [18]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>>
>>>>>      [18] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>>
>>>>>    discuss in agenda 3
>>>>>
>>>>> Issues
>>>>>
>>>>>    [19]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/369
>>>>>
>>>>>      [19] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/369
>>>>>
>>>>>    no objections to resolution as implemented
>>>>>
>>>>>    <glenn> close issue 369
>>>>>
>>>>>    close ISSUE-369
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-369.
>>>>>
>>>>>    [20]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/390
>>>>>
>>>>>      [20] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/390
>>>>>
>>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>>
>>>>>    close ISSUE-390
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-390.
>>>>>
>>>>>    [21]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/392
>>>>>
>>>>>      [21] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/392
>>>>>
>>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>>
>>>>>    close ISSUE-392
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-392.
>>>>>
>>>>>    [22]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/393
>>>>>
>>>>>      [22] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/393
>>>>>
>>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>>
>>>>>    close ISSUE-393
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-393.
>>>>>
>>>>>    [23]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>>
>>>>>      [23] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>>
>>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>>
>>>>>    [24]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>>
>>>>>      [24] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>>
>>>>>    close ISSUE-394
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-394.
>>>>>
>>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>>
>>>>>    close ISSUE-394
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-394.
>>>>>
>>>>>    close ISSUE-395
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-395.
>>>>>
>>>>>    pal: no suggested topics raised on open issues, moving to next
>>>>>    agenda item
>>>>>
>>>>> IMSC1 Status
>>>>>
>>>>>    [25]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>>
>>>>>      [25] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>>
>>>>>    Thierry: proposed initial draft at
>>>>>    [26]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Jun/0045
>>>>>    .html
>>>>>
>>>>>      [26]
>>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Jun/0045.html
>>>>>
>>>>>    pal: since the letter is intended in part to implementers that
>>>>>    are not W3C members,
>>>>>    ... what about introducing W3C, TTWG, how the results will be
>>>>>    used, etc...
>>>>>    ... might be an opportunity for W3C to reach out to new members
>>>>>
>>>>>    thierry: respondents can choose to remain confidential
>>>>>    separately at the TTWG level and implementation report
>>>>>    ... nigel asked what the final date is for the questionnaire...
>>>>>    we should put a date like October to drive responses... we can
>>>>>    always change the date
>>>>>
>>>>>    pal: October sounds fine
>>>>>    ... October it is
>>>>>
>>>>> HTML Cue
>>>>>
>>>>>    atai2: re: ACTION-401, kicked-off discussion with glenn, pal,
>>>>>    Erik Lindström and nigel
>>>>>    ... proposal is to prepare strawman for October TPAC
>>>>>
>>>>>    glenn: HTML WG uses "extension specifications" to extend HTML
>>>>>    ... suggest working within HTML WG directly
>>>>>    ... the conversion of TTML and WebVTT to HTML is separate from
>>>>>    definition of HTMLCue
>>>>>
>>>>>    pal: whether the strawman is published as a TTWG Note, liaison,
>>>>>    wiki page, etc... it should follow the extension specification
>>>>>
>>>>>    atai2: initial draft available end of July
>>>>>
>>>>>    <atai2> I seem to be disconnected from the audio
>>>>>
>>>>>    <atai2> I will dial in again
>>>>>
>>>>>    <scribe> ACTION: atai2 to follow on creating a strawman re:
>>>>>    HTML Cue extension specification [recorded in
>>>>>    [27]http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-minutes.html#action01]
>>>>>
>>>>>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-406 - Follow on creating a strawman
>>>>>    re: html cue extension specification [on Andreas Tai - due
>>>>>    2015-06-25].
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary of Action Items
>>>>>
>>>>>    [NEW] ACTION: atai2 to follow on creating a strawman re: HTML
>>>>>    Cue extension specification [recorded in
>>>>>    [28]http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-minutes.html#action01]
>>>>>
>>>>>    [End of minutes]
>>>>>      __________________________________________________________
>>>>>
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