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{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2/10/2014

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 16:21:02 +0000
To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D051E87B.12AC7%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chair: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: [to assign during meeting]

Regrets: Frans de Jong

Activity since last meeting:
Actions: Action-236, Action-286, Action-287, Action-320, Action-332;
Issues discussed: Issue-270 and Issue-335 and Issue-346 (document vs media timing);
Issues raised: none;
IMSC 1 CR postponed, WD published and W3C requests for wide review sent;
TTML1 Errata published;
TPAC agenda page updated.

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. Santa Clara F2F October (TPAC)
2. IMSC 1 WD External liaisons.
3. TTML 2 FPWD
4. Action Items
5. Issues - pending review first, then open and discussed
6. Change proposals - can we close any? Which ones to work on next?
7. AOB – please notify now!

Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

This week: TTML2 FPWD
October 2nd: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour

Further ahead:
Wednesday 8 October: closure date for issues on TTML2 - any new feature issues beyond this point to be addressed after 'last' WD or in v.next.
October 9th: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour
October 16th: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour
October 23rd: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour
October 27th: IMSC 1 WD review period ends
October 27th & 28th: TTWG F2F meeting at TPAC
Thursday 20th November: all issues on TTML2 to be closed or deliberately postponed (to v.next or CR review stage).
Wednesday 17th December: TTML2 CR ready to request for publication e.g. for publication on Thursday 18th December.

Agenda+ Santa Clara F2F October (TPAC)

Wiki page is at [1]. Draft Agenda and attendees section now added.

Agenda+ IMSC 1 WD External liaisons

Feedback from my draft for review email at [2].

Which recipients? Any wording changes?

Agenda+ Action items pending review

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-236<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit>     pending review  Review consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>      Glenn Adams     2014-08-31
ACTION-286<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit>     pending review  Send an email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286> Glenn Adams     2014-08-31
ACTION-287<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit>     pending review  Elaborate on wording in §4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>      Glenn Adams     2014-08-31
ACTION-320<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/320>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/320/edit>     pending review  Review https://www.w3.org/wiki/ttml/codecsregistry w.r.t. recent ttml2 changes in profile definition mechanisms<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/320>   Glenn Adams     2014-08-21

Agenda+ Action items overdue

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-283<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/283>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/283/edit>     open    And dsinger to respond to mpeg liaison<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/283>    Nigel Megitt    2014-09-10      Profile short names<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>
ACTION-331<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/331>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/331/edit>     open    Contact cyril requesting git repository instructions for the tests.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/331>       Nigel Megitt    2014-09-24

Agenda+ Action items due next week

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-332<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/332>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/332/edit>     open    Add schema support for ISD vocabulary<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/332>     Glenn Adams     2014-10-01      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-333<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/333>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/333/edit>     open    Create a one pager to cover the plan for the director's meeting for taking imsc1 to cr.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/333>   Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  2014-10-02
ACTION-335<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/335>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/335/edit>     open    Review issue-276 by 9/10/14<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/335>       Frans de Jong   2014-10-02

Agenda+ Issues discussed over the past week

Discussed issues
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-228<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/228>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/228/edit>
Ruby text       PENDING REVIEW  Ruby text support<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/228>  2013-05-30      TTML2   0
ISSUE-270<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/270>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/270/edit>
nigel   OPEN    Appendix N assumption that root temporal extent corresponds with the beginning of a related media object<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/270>   2013-08-12      TTML2   0
ISSUE-276<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/276>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/276/edit>
version-vs-profile      PENDING REVIEW  ttp:version vs ttp:profile vs ttp:contentProfile<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/276>   2013-09-05      TTML2   0
ISSUE-335<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/335>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/335/edit>
Negative times for offsets      PENDING REVIEW  In order to handle offsets between start time in TTML docs and start time in video, allow negative times to be used in fragment begin times.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/335>       2014-08-14      TTML2   0
ISSUE-345<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/345>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/345/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  tts:overflow - ambiguous language about region extent<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/345>      2014-09-17      TTML 1.0 (Editorial)    0
ISSUE-346<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/346>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/346/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Need ttp:mediaDuration parameter<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/346>   2014-09-21      TTML2   0
ISSUE-350<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/350>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/350/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Add general statement/comment in abstract/introduction that IMSC1 is not a proper subset of TTML1SE.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/350>       2014-09-25      TTML IMSC 1.0   0



Other Pending Review issues
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-305<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names     PENDING REVIEW  Registry of TTML profiles and short names<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>  2014-05-01              1
ISSUE-347<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/347>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/347/edit>
ISD Syntax      PENDING REVIEW  Define ISD Syntax for both UA internal use and interchange.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/347>        2014-09-23      TTML2   0
ISSUE-348<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/348>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/348/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  Make metric optional in offset-time form of time expressions.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/348>      2014-09-23      TTML2   0

Right now there are currently 56 issues Open on TTML2 - see [3] for the current list.


Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review

Change Proposal Index is at [4].

Our current priority 1 CPs are:
1       PENDING CLOSE   1       Jerry Smith     TTML2   Amendments to the set attribute<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001>
5       OPEN    1       Jerry Smith     TTML2   HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
12      PENDING CLOSE   1       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Profile fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal012>
15      OPEN    1       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
16      OPEN    1       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Conditional<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal016>
17      OPEN    1       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19      OPEN    1       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
24      PENDING CLOSE   1       Glenn Adams     TTML2   XML fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal024>
25      OPEN    1       Nigel Megitt    TTML2   Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>

Does any of the work discussed in this meeting result in a change of status to any CPs, e.g. To CLOSED-IMPLEMENTED?

Timeline for TTML2 updated in 14th August meeting.

W/C 22 September: TTML2 FPWD <— NB this did not occur
Wednesday 8 October: closure date for issues on TTML2 - any new feature issues beyond this point to be addressed after LC or in v.next. <— Should we extend this given that the FPWD has not been published?
Monday 27th and Tuesday 28th October: TPAC F2F
Thursday 20th November: all issues on TTML2 to be closed or deliberately postponed (to v.next or LC review stage).
Wednesday 17th December: Last Call doc ready to request for publication.

Agenda+ AOB


References

[1] Santa Clara F2F October (TPAC) wiki page http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2014

[2] Nigel's email re Review liaison to external groups: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2014Oct/0000.html

[3] List of Open, Raised and Pending Review Issues on TTML2: https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4

[4] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex

Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText


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