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Re: FYI - Media Accessibility User Requirements WD

From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:01:15 -0700
Message-ID: <CAF_7JxB-YCxYrDAG3jaZC7au8E8eFRa7JM9_qjrbU_0HLbGP6g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Cc: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>, TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
Hi Nigel,

Amended proposal below.

"""
When we take the step of assessing conformance against a requirement
set, we include these in that set. The report of conformance does not
necessarily have to be "100% conforms to every requirement.
"""

Thanks,

-- Pierre

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> To be clear, my proposal was that, when we take the required step of assessing conformance against a requirement set, we include these in that set. The report of conformance does not necessarily have to be "100% conforms to every requirement."
>
>
>
>> On 19 Aug 2014, at 18:44, "Pierre-Anthony Lemieux" <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>
>> Right. I am happy for the group to consider them, and provide feedback
>> as the case may be. I do not think it is however reasonable to
>> necessarily hold-off and/or require significant changes to IMSC 1
>> and/or TTML 2 (as they approach LC) based on a WD. There is always the
>> opportunity to address the final published requirements in future
>> revisions of the specifications.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -- Pierre
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote:
>>> I agree with Nigel that we should at least consider whether/how we support
>>> these requirements (now and as they evolve) and be able to document (if
>>> needed) where and why we don't satisfy them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>>
>>>> The point is that the recommendations might fluctuate with time, and
>>>> it is not reasonable IMSC 1 and TTML 2 to track a moving target given
>>>> their timeline.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The requirements we assess the Recommendations against do not need to be
>>>>> normative so I think it is reasonable for us to take a snapshot if they
>>>>> are not stable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/08/2014 17:30, "Pierre-Anthony Lemieux" <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aren't these specification working drafts, and thus subject to change?
>>>>>> If so, it is probably not reasonable to make TTML 2 and IMSC 1
>>>>>> contingent on them given their timeline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the heads-up Glenn. It looks like these bits:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-media-accessibility-reqs-20140814/#captionin
>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-media-accessibility-reqs-20140814/#enhanced-
>>>>>>> captions-subtitles
>>>>>>> are particularly relevant to us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would anyone object to adopting those requirements as a subset of the
>>>>>>> requirements that TTML 2 and IMSC 1 should be measured against when
>>>>>>> assessing their conformance when it comes to LC/CR as per the process
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> publishing Recommendations (either the old or the new process)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nigel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:59
>>>>>>> To: TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: FYI - Media Accessibility User Requirements WD
>>>>>>> Resent-From: <public-tt@w3.org>
>>>>>>> Resent-Date: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Media Accessibility User Requirements Working Draft Updated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   14 August 2014 | Archive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/4024
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   The Protocols and Formats Working Group (PFWG) today published
>>>>>>>   an updated Working Draft of "Media Accessibility User
>>>>>>>   Requirements," a planned W3C Working Group Note. This document
>>>>>>>   describes the accessibility requirements of people with
>>>>>>>   disabilities with respect to audio and video on the Web,
>>>>>>>   particularly in the context of HTML5. It explains alternative
>>>>>>>   content technologies that people use to get audio and video
>>>>>>>   content, and how these fit in the larger picture of
>>>>>>>   accessibility, both technically within a web user agent and
>>>>>>>   from a production process point of view. Learn more about the
>>>>>>>   Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/
>>>>>>>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-media-accessibility-reqs-20140814/
>>>>>>>   http://www.w3.org/WAI/
>>>
>>>
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