- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:40:40 -0600
- To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+f8bQfcYJ0NBg2=u=G9m9LqAy9rR-XHYBdPie8ake+g9g@mail.gmail.com>
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Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
22 Mar 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Mar/0032.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-tt-irc
Attendees
Present
sean_, glenn, +49.893.aaaa, +44.147.383.aabb, johnb,
andreas, +1.858.882.aacc, miked, sean
Chair
sean
Scribe
glenn
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Charter Update
3. [7]Review of Actions
4. [8]Review of Issues
5. [9]Adjournment
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
<scribe> Scribe: glenn
Agenda
Charter Update
[11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Mar/0033.
html
[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Mar/0033.html
sean: is LC for May for 2nd Ed reasonable?
... if any new features, will need LC; otherwise, may not need
LC
... thinks there will not be new features, i.e., substantive
changes
<scribe> ... new features will be in TTML.next
glenn: agrees that substantive changes probably not required
-Regrets: miked
sean: only concerns are with SMPTE timing and profile changes
... however, consensus is that LC probably not needed
... will continue with May timing
Review of Actions
ACTION-151?
<trackbot> ACTION-151 does not exist
ACTION-48?
<trackbot> ACTION-48 -- Sean Hayes to elaborate issue-151
points -- due 2012-03-08 -- CLOSED
<trackbot>
[12]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/48
[12] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/48
ACTION-50?
<trackbot> ACTION-50 -- Sean Hayes to create wiki page for ttml
and subpage for role registry -- due 2012-03-22 -- CLOSED
<trackbot>
[13]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/50
[13] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/50
sean: completed action-48 and action-50
ACTION-41?
<trackbot> ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to ACTION: Sean to start the
Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]
[14]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] --
due 2012-04-01 -- OPEN
[14] http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41
[15] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41
sean: wip, few details to finalize
ACTION-44?
<trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to put in place a
new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due
2012-03-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
[16] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
sean: wip
... coordinating with plh
Review of Issues
ISSUE-165?
<trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- allowing set to animate more than one
attribute. -- open
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/165
[17] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/165
sean: in trying to simulate pop-on style, would like to
simplify by specifying multiple attributes in a single set
element
... or could have set reference a style element in order to
animate entire style set referenced through style element
glenn: this would be TTML.next
sean: yes
ISSUE-151?
<trackbot> ISSUE-151 -- Clarify syncbase in SMPTE continuous
mode -- open
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/151
[18] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/151
<Sean> hello?
sean: was smpte mode intended to be marker based for both
continuous and discountinuous cases?
glenn: yes, smpte timebase was intended to be marker mode
irrespective of value of ttp:markerMode value
sean: if intent was that smpte/continuous is intended to be
marker mode, then we need to clarify spec; if not, then we need
to remove
... suggests that glenn closely read the current spec text,
then writes a CP to address this issue
... will need to deal with the problem that (informative) notes
in 6.2.6 (ttp:markerMode) seem to be specifying normative
semantics that should be present in normative text
ACTION glenn to review and draft CP for resolving ISSUE-151
<trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Review and draft CP for
resolving ISSUE-151 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-29].
ISSUE-154?
<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- Clarify the endsync behavior -- open
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/154
[19] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/154
sean: simpler than 151, but still may need change to spec
... problem is that we don't specify endsync, which has a
default of 'last'
... for most part this works, but may not work in marker mode
... problem is that parent needs to stay alive until children
see their end markers
... could fix by changing default for endsync behavior to 'all'
... in fact this default could be applied throughout
... proposes introducing semantics that endsync behavior is
'all', at least for marker mode, but maybe for all modes
... will write CP to this effect
ACTION sean to draft CP for resolving ISSUE-154
<trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Draft CP for resolving ISSUE-154
[on Sean Hayes - due 2012-03-29].
ISSUE-162?
<trackbot> ISSUE-162 -- profile discrepancy -- open
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/162
[20] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/162
mike: does profile specify a document profile or a processing
profile?
sean: believes it is fairly clear in spec
mike: industry is not clear on this, so perhaps needs more
explicit language to this effect
sean: ... perhaps we should (could) add new mechanisms to
support specifying document profile, but suggest this be
TTML.next action
mike: most important that intent is clear
sean: would be reasonable to add more clarifying
text/examples/etc.
ACTION glenn to address or draft CP to resolve ISSUE-156
<trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Address or draft CP to resolve
ISSUE-156 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-29].
sean: any action to create new document profile should be
introduced with a new issue
... what happens if profile refers to a feature we don't
define?
... when we introduce new feature designators in future, then
what is processor behavior for older processors?
glenn:
[21]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-d
fxp.html#conformance-generic-processor
[21] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#conformance-generic-processor
see item (3)
mike: if no profile is specified, then processor should not
reject (for that reason)
... in other words, should be optional
ACTION glenn to clarify behavior regarding processor behavior
when encountering feature for which no used or required is
indicated
<trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Clarify behavior regarding
processor behavior when encountering feature for which no used
or required is indicated [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-29].
Adjournment
adjourned
trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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