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RE: TextAlign002 and use of textAlign on span elements

From: John Birch <john.birch@screen.subtitling.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:35:48 -0000
Message-ID: <4476B296B92A4741A49B0BD017590700AA7879@sss-uk-ex-02.screen.subtitling.local>
To: "Glenn A. Adams" <gadams@xfsi.com>, "Philippe Le Hegaret" <plh@w3.org>, "Public TTWG List" <public-tt@w3.org>
So in fact, <p> elements do have the 'visual' effect of a CRLF (by
virtue of creating stacked line areas) even though no CRLF occurs within
the line area.
<p>This text is above</p>
<p>This text is below</p>
would give the same 'visual' effect as:
<p> This text is above<br/>This text is below</p>
What I'd like to distribute in DFXP is text that had the following
visual presentation characteristics.
Where the two sentences are aligned respectively against the left and
right 'margins' (region boundaries).
"This text is left.       This text is right."
This is because it is quite desirable to have...
"Hey Joe!                    Yes Fred?"
...type of subtitles within fast moving dialogue... the alignment
corresponds to speaker location on screen.
[In a Teletext subtitle presentation, this can be achieved using the
cell based nature of Teletext and the nature of a fixed width space

From: Glenn A. Adams [mailto:gadams@xfsi.com] 
Sent: 11 December 2008 10:37
To: John Birch; Philippe Le Hegaret; Public TTWG List
Subject: Re: TextAlign002 and use of textAlign on span elements

Ah, now I understand your question about <p/>, which was not clear
before. In fact, if you have two <p/>s each containing some content,
then there is an explicit (not implied) boundary between them, since
each would generate a non-empty line area, and line areas do no pack (in
inline progression direction),  but stack (in block progression
direction). So what you suggest would not work either.


On 12/11/08 4:16 PM, "John Birch" <john.birch@screen.subtitling.com>

	Thanks Glen,
	I wasn't seeking to introduce new reqs. :-)
	If a p element does not necessarily incur crlf behaviour then
what I need could presumably be achieved using two p elements in par
with different alignment style attributes 'drawing' into the same

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