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[DFXP LC Comment] Comments by CSS WG

From: Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:44:52 +0200
To: public-tt@w3.org
Message-Id: <200504222044.52196.bert@w3.org>

Hello TT WG,

Thanks for permitting a delay. Here are the promised comments:

5.1) Why six different namespaces in one document format? It doesn't 
seem like you can use any of them on its own.

5.2) If it is important for an implementation to know the profile a 
document conforms to, shouldn't the profile name be passed out of band 
(as a MIME type parameter), instead of inside the document? A profile 
is usually something you author to, but then neither the client nor the 
server need to know that you do so; or it is something a client uses 
for content negotiation (e.g., HTTP Accept header or TYPE attribute on 
an HTML LINK element). It is not useful inside the document, except 
perhaps for the Unix "file" command...

5.2) In fact, the spec doesn't say what an implementation does with 
profiles. I assume it doesn't do anything with it (unless perhaps if 
the program is a validator).

5.3.1) Why lowerCamelCase even for names that are borrowed from other 
specifications? XML names can contain dashes.

6.2.1) EDITORIAL: s/express number/express the number/

6.2.1 until 6.2.13) All (not sure about one or two) of these attributes 
can only occur on one element, viz., <tt>. So why are they defined as 
global attributes (with a prefix)?

6.2.2) Where is the syntax of GPS time coordinates defined? I couldn't 
find the definition in the spec and there is no reference either.

6.2.2) Are GPS time coordinates really needed? Their semantics are the 
same as UTC, aren't they? What is the use case?

6.2.2) It seems that there may be only one clockMode attribute per 
document (if I interpret the note at the end of 6.2.13 correctly), but 
unlike for the other attributes, there is no paragraph in this section 
that says that clockMode may only occur on the <tt> element.

6.2.3) Is the defaultLengthUnit attribute needed? In CSS, we found it 
useful to have unitless numbers mean something specific, different from 
a length, e.g., as a multiplier. That possibility is removed when there 
is a default unit. Also, in a typical document there probably aren't 
more than a dozen or so length values, so declaring a default doesn't 
actually make the document shorter.

6.2.3) The default is "pixels," but are they device pixels or px units, 
as in XSL/CSS?

6.2.4) Same question: is defaultTimeMetric necessary?

6.2.5) EDITORIAL: s/of document instance/of a document instance/

6.2.6) Is NTSC the only case where a frameRateMultiplier is necessary? 
If so, then maybe a single keyword ("NTSC" on the frameRate attribute) 
is enough, and a general multiplier is overkill.

6.2.6) EDITORIAL: s/MHz/Hz/ for the first occurrence in the note.

7.1.1) Why must xml:lang be specified? Isn't omitting it the same as 
defining it to be the empty string?

7.1.1) Is xml:space necessary? You'll have to have style attributes for 
space handling anyway, so why complicate matters by doing a half job in 

7.1.3) Attributes begin, dur and end are on <tt> and on <body>. Are they 
needed on both?

7.1.7) Is the <br> needed? You can also use two <p> elements if you need 
two lines.

7.1.7) What happens if you put two <br> elements in a row, do you get an 
empty line or not?

7.1.7) Why does the <br> element have an xml:space attribute? Empty 
elements don't contain spaces...

7.2.3) Rule three seems to imply that the mark-up

    <p>one<span> two </span>three</p>

is displayed as "onetwothree" without any spaces. Maybe you meant to 
omit leading and trailing spaces from the <p> element only?

8.1.1) What happens if a DFXP document has a style PI? I assume a DFXP 
application will ignore it (just like a generic XML viewer will ignore 
the <styling> elements).

8.2.1) The bullet list of elements that accept style attributes should 
be non-normative (i.e., a note), because that information is already 
known from earlier sections.

8.2.10) The note says that a horizontal font-size is useful in systems 
that have two fonts: normal and double-width. But do you expect a 
horizontal font-size to work on any other system? or with any other 
value than "1c" or "2c"?

8.2.16) The note says that a <p> is displayed on one line, unless a <br> 
is used. But doesn't that also depend on wrapOption?

8.2.16) overflow in CSS/XSL has a value "scroll" but here it is renamed 
to "dynamic." Why? An automatic scroll, such as the marquee effect of 
"dynamicFlow," is a valid "scrolling mechanism" in XSL/CSS terms.

8.2.17) "padding" allows one, two or four values. Why not three, as in 

8.2.18) "showBackground" appears to be similar to 'empty-cells' in CSS. 
Is there no way to merge them?

8.2.19) "textAlign" doesn't allow values "left" and "right" as in 
XSL/CSS, although it is much easier for an author to write "left" than 
"start" (or "end") when he means "left." Also, when converting from/to 
other formats, it is easier if the value for textAlign in DFXP is a 
direct translation of the corresponding value in the other format, 
rather than a function of that other value and the "direction" 

8.2.20) CSS3 proposes a 'font-effect: outline' property to create 
outline fonts, but it doesn't give control over the thickness of the 
outline, let alone the amount of blur. Isn't 'font-effect: outline' 

8.2.22) The example is supposed to show that "visibility" can hide text, 
but there is no text to hide... The first text only appears after 1 

8.3.6) The generic font family names suggest specific kinds of fonts, 
but the spec effectively says to expect nothing. In that case, why 
aren't they called "font1" to "font5"? Some help for implementers seems 
useful. If an implementation has different fonts available, I think 
users would like it if the fonts are mapped somewhat intelligently.

8.3.6) The generic font families are different from those in XSL/CSS. 
Maybe DFXP doesn't need "fantasy" and "cursive," but it could have kept 
"sans-serif" and "serif" without renaming them. Also, is the difference 
"monospace-sans-serif" vs "monospace-serif" really needed? Just one 
monospace font has been enough for all my uses (which weren't 
subtitles, I admit).

8.3.11) The units px, em and c are defined syntactically, but what do 
they mean? I assume px is as in XSL/CSS and em is the font-size, 
because 8.2.10 mentions an "EM square" in relation to font-size. "c" is 
probably the cell as defined by 6.2.1 cellResolution.

8.3.11) Is the em unit the vertical font size or the horizontal one? Or 
does that depend on whether the length is used to measure something 
horizontal or vertical?

10.1.2) begin, end and dur attributes: what happens if they conflict?

  Bert Bos                                ( W 3 C ) http://www.w3.org/
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