Re: Call on Monday

Mike,

I disagree and this has always been the mainstay of the working group since
very early on in the discussion.  The law can override the technical
discussion but we've always felt a neutral starting point was more
appropriate such that the user chooses from that position (you could argue
in the US, which is more of an opt-out model, that we could start with
DNT:0).  From a reading of the ePR draft, you could argue that neutral
still works if the browser prompts the user on first use to make a decision.

- Shane

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Mike O'Neill <michael.oneill@baycloud.com>
wrote:

> I think the new paragraph on default DNT 10.1 should be removed.
>
> The European DPAs have already indicated that DNT should be set by default
> in browsers in the EU. This does not "violate the field's semantics", DNT:1
> still means do not track.
>
> It is true that in Europe the service provider (i.e. the entity managing
> the server) must obtain consent before accessing storage in the user's
> device (which they must do to implement tracking), and that only the
> existence of DNT:0 could be taken as a signal of consent in that context.
>
> But most subresources on sites are managed by entities outside of Europe
> and sending DNT:1 to them can indicate either that the user has set it
> explicitly, or that it has been set by default because the user is an EU
> resident.
>
> In the US, if some browser providers set DNT:1 by default, presumably
> users will be made aware of the fact, and their choice to use those
> particular browsers indicates an equally deliberate action. In reality the
> only major browser that did that was IE, which no longer does that.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation) [mailto:mts-std@schunter.org]
> Sent: 20 August 2017 16:32
> To: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org) <
> public-tracking@w3.org>
> Subject: Call on Monday
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> as announced in our call 2 weeks ago, the review period for the final
> draft ends tomorrow (before our call).
>
> In the call, we will discuss any potential issues that have been
> identified during the review period.
>
> Regards,
> matthias
>
>
>
>


-- 
- Shane

Shane Wiley
VP, Privacy
Oath: A Verizon Company