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Re: Agenda for the Sept 11 call (V01)

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:02:41 -0700
Message-id: <D1011061-0144-4CB9-8964-D63C69AA3760@apple.com>
To: "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Perhaps we should be clear what would be godo reasons not to make a WD public.  Off the top of my head:

* it does not incorporate text that the group has agreed to;  it's not up to date
* it has spelling errors, grammatical errors, or the like
* it has formatting issues, doesn't conform to the template
* the title, copyright notice, or other boilerplate material is wrong or missing
* it fails to give appropriate acknowledgements
* it doesn't list open issues that the group would like to alert the outside world to

these are all correctable by the editors.  "The document has lots of open issues that we never discuss because we prefer to discuss process over substance" is not, alas. :-(


On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:55 , "Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation)" <mts-std@schunter.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> thanks for the feedback.
> 
> You are correct, the review /feedback on "the plan" is still open and I am expecting feedback / comments before September 13.
> 
> We are required to regularily (every 3 months) report to the public what we currently discuss as a working draft.
> This has been neglected in the past.  Unless stated otherwise, these documents do not document consensus and may radically change anytime.
> 
> I asked for objection to publishing the document (with 1/2 page of disclaimers) and received none. I therefore shipped the current text (with disclaimers).
> 
> Sorry for the confusion. I still appreciate your inputs and we can easily publish an improved WD as soon as possible after having addressed your inputs.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> matthias
> 
> 
> On 11/09/2013 16:44, Shane M Wiley wrote:
>> Matthias,
>>  
>> As a reminder, the deadline was extended to this Friday due to Rosh Hashanah last week.
>>  
>> - Shane
>>  
>> From: Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation) [mailto:mts-std@schunter.org] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:35 AM
>> To: David Wainberg
>> Cc: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)
>> Subject: Re: Agenda for the Sept 11 call (V01)
>>  
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> thanks a lot for your input.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, the deadline on comments has passed yesterday and this snapshot is currently under submission for publication.
>> It should have sufficient disclaimers (I tried my best) and I would appreciate your inputs for the next release that we will publish soon.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> matthias
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/09/2013 15:41, David Wainberg wrote:
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> On 2013-09-05 7:35 AM, Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation) wrote:
>> 6. Publication of the current editor's draft as a working draft:
>>     http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/drafts/tracking-compliance.html
>>     I have asked our editors to 
>>         - insert a disclaimer that this is only the current starting point of our 
>>             discussion and that the text is not consensus of the group. 
>>         - to list the issues currently open
>>         - Indicating that more issues can be raised until October 02.
>>    Discussion (you may email before the call, too): 
>>    What are additional concrete changes to the text that are essential before we publish?
>> In my view, we're not ready to publish this as a Working Draft. There are too many open issues and questions about the process going forward. According to W3C process, publication of a Working Draft is an indication to the world at large that the doc is approaching last call and is ready for broad public review. I don't think we're there yet. I would ask that we hold on doing this until things settle a bit. 
>> 
>> Much thanks. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> David
>>  
> 

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:03:15 UTC

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