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RE: ISSUE-10 First party definition, ISSUE-60, ACTION-?

From: Alexander Hanff <a.hanff@think-privacy.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:01:10 +0100
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Why is the group second guessing what consumers think?  The definition of
first party already exists, there is no need to redefine it in a light which
makes it easier for exceptions to be made for tracking widgets.


Many users will not be remotely aware that a "Like" button is actually
hosted by Facebook, they would assume it is hosted on the domain they are
visiting.  To assume otherwise is absurd and further weakens the validity of
this DNT process.


Alexander Hanff


From: Justin Brookman [mailto:justin@cdt.org] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 16:52
To: public-tracking@w3.org
Subject: ISSUE-10 First party definition, ISSUE-60, ACTION-?


Peter asked me to try to combine the three definitions of "first party" in
the current text in consultation with Heather.  The existing definitions are
all very close, and I don't think there are major substantive disagreements
here.  Anyway, here is my best effort (Heather provided feedback, but she's
not around this morning, so I don't know if she blesses this):


In a specific network interaction, if a party can reasonably conclude with
high probability that the user intends to communicate with it, that party is
a <dfn>first party</dfn>.  In most cases on a traditional web browser, the
first party will be the party that owns and operates the domain visible in
the address bar.  A first party also includes a party that owns and operates
an embedded widget, search box, or similar service with which a user
intentionally interacts.  If a user merely mouses over, closes, or mutes
such content, that is not sufficient interaction to render the party a first


Rob Sherman is separately working on text regarding multiple first parties.


Chris Pedigo and Vinay Goel are separately working on text regarding data
processors that stand in the shoes of their controllers, party-wise.

Justin Brookman
Director, Consumer Privacy
Center for Democracy & Technology
tel 202.407.8812
Received on Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:01:30 UTC

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