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RE: tracking-ISSUE-182 (MikeO): protocol for user agents to indicate whether a request with DNT set is 1st party or 3rd party [Tracking Preference Expression (DNT)]

From: Mike O'Neill <michael.oneill@baycloud.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:10:34 -0000
To: <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <053301cdb7a3$c9492a20$5bdb7e60$@baycloud.com>
Shane,

 

Sorry, I just noticed your message. Here is my late reply:

 

The ability for servers to get information on how they are being accessed
was not main point, though I think it would still be useful. Often cookie
headers are processed by code common to both situations and having an inline
indication mechanism could make implementation easier.

 

I was mainly thinking that it would be a way for companies to prove their
compliance from retained logs. Potential ambiguities flagged like your
yimg.net/yahoo.com case could be explained with a note if necessary.

 

I was also trying to address the problem Ed Felton raised with the non UI
exception API, where 1st party script accidentally (or maliciously)
registers an exception for a 3rd party without the user giving consent. That
is the function of the t= qualifier in the DNT:0 case indicated to a third
party.

 

Mike

 

 

>>Mike,

 

>>I believe this approach is only helpful for those cases where a 1st party
believes its acting as 1st party but is instead "iframed" and >>acting as a
3rd party without its knowledge.  Telling a 3rd party they are a 3rd party
doesn't appear to offer much value.  And in some >>cases it'll be inaccurate
as you're simply telling the Server it's not the top level domain but it may
already know that and still be >>considered first party.  For example,
Yahoo! image edge serving domain is yimg.net and when I see that on
yahoo.com it's still >>considered 1st party.

 

>>This seems like a tremendous amount of weight to add to the protocol to
solve for a rare problem and one that can largely be managed >>through
Server deployment architectures.

 

>>- Shane

 
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