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RE: Logged-In Exception (ISSUE-65)

From: Kevin Smith <kevsmith@adobe.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:28:28 -0700
To: Sid Stamm <sid@mozilla.com>, JC Cannon <jccannon@microsoft.com>
CC: Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <6E120BECD1FFF142BC26B61F4D994CF3064CCAC6BD@nambx07.corp.adobe.com>
I think this is where web-wide exceptions play in.  There are services like recommendation engines whose sole purpose is to 'watch' what you do so it can recommend things to you as you go.  We run into the same user expectation problem here again.  It will be very difficult for us to determine which logged-in tool the user intends to function on other sites, vs those that the user does not.

Example for how this may work -   A user visits a social media site.  The social media site sees that the user has DNT:1 enabled and realizes that their off-site widgets may not function as the user would expect.  The social media site therefore explicitly asks for permission to run their widgets for that user across the web when the user is logged in.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sid Stamm [mailto:sid@mozilla.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:22 PM
To: JC Cannon
Cc: Rigo Wenning; public-tracking@w3.org
Subject: Re: Logged-In Exception (ISSUE-65)

So I guess it's not that black and white.  Let me clarify a bit...

On 3/15/2012 5:02 PM, Sid Stamm wrote:
> I can get behind this. Function without tracking when logged in.  

By this I mean "Function without recording my activity when logged-in."


> I wonder, are there cases where function is exactly tracking (when 
> logged in)?

And by this I mean "Are there cases where the function provided absolutely requires and is only recording my activity before I interact with the third party (for sites where I'm logged in)?  I'm talking about function that immediately benefits the user in the context of the first party."

-Sid

> 
> -Sid
> 
> On 3/15/2012 4:46 PM, JC Cannon wrote:
>> Now we just need to get the others to agree. :)
>>
>> JC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rigo Wenning [mailto:rigo@w3.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:39 AM
>> To: public-tracking@w3.org
>> Cc: JC Cannon
>> Subject: Re: Logged-In Exception (ISSUE-65)
>>
>> JC,
>>
>> On Wednesday 14 March 2012 16:28:27 JC Cannon wrote:
>>> Specific scenario: User logs into FB and navigates to CNN.com to 
>>> read an article. The user is able to see the FB friends that liked the article.
>>> However, FB should not log the fact that the user has viewed the 
>>> article or even gone to CNN unless the user clicks on the FB Like button.
>>>
>>> If feel this type of behavior would be expected and I personally 
>>> like this type of feature.
>>
>> This was the point I was trying to make in my earlier email (and use case). 
>> How come we agree on things? :)
>>
>> Rigo
>>
>>
>>
> 
Received on Friday, 16 March 2012 16:29:09 UTC

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