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Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:06:11 -0700
Cc: rob@blaeu.com, "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>, Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, Matthias Schunter <mts-std@schunter.org>, "publ >> \"public-tracking@w3.org\"" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-id: <8444BC4E-6E81-48F7-AAEB-89E2F555069F@apple.com>
To: Tamir Israel <tisrael@cippic.ca>

On Jun 20, 2012, at 20:34 , Tamir Israel wrote:

> If the WG's objective is to ensure user preferences are expressed, why don't we simply make this a MUST?

Because that would disallow the case where it's simply an option in the preferences, which users can go to if they wish!

> 
> On 6/20/2012 10:15 PM, Rob van Eijk wrote:
>> Tnx Roy,
>> 
>> <PROPOSED CHANGE>
>> Normative: "... users MAY be given a choice during installation, update or first startup."
>> 
>> Non-normative:
>> There are use cases, where a choice given on first startup would be the preferred choice mechanism.
>> For example,
>> - a device can have multiple user profiles per installation;
>> - in cases where browsers are not installed by the user.
>> </PROPOSED CHANGE>
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> On 20-6-2012 18:22, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Rob van Eijk wrote:
>>> 
>>>> <PROPOSED CHANGE>
>>>> "... users may be given a choice during installation, update or first startup."
>>>> </PROPOSED CHANGE>
>>> Not during installation or update -- only during first use.
>>> The preference should be stored in the user's browser config (along
>>> with their other personal preferences); a device might want
>>> to have multiple such user profiles per installation.
>>> 
>>> In normal enterprise environments and the vast majority of purchased
>>> computers, browsers are not installed by the user.  They are installed
>>> by sysadmins, vendors, etc.  Likewise, updates should not modify
>>> user preferences.
>>> 
>>> ....Roy
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:07:04 UTC

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