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Re: Today's call: summary on user agent compliance

From: Peter Cranstone <peter.cranstone@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:49:33 -0600
To: Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, Kevin Smith <kevsmith@adobe.com>
CC: "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>, "<public-tracking@w3.org> (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CBFE74D6.32E0%peter.cranstone@gmail.com>
There is a simple solution.

Server sees UA from MSIE 10 and sees that DNT:1 is set
Sends a nice "marketing approved" message to the consumer and asks "is
this your intent?"
User says yes, server sets a cookie
Problem solved


Peter
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On 6/13/12 4:44 PM, "Rigo Wenning" <rigo@w3.org> wrote:

>On Wednesday 13 June 2012 15:25:32 Kevin Smith wrote:
>> Our currently defined protocol does provide a way to indicate who
>> set the value - the presence of a DNT:1 was intended to
>> communicate the user's intent.  If DNT:1 is set by default, there
>> is no way to communicate to the server the user's
>> intent.  Therefore, it is impossible for that a UA which sends
>> DNT:1 by default to send a valid DNT request since they cannot in
>> any way express the user's intent.
>
>You're digging into (silly) trenches instead of looking for a
>solution. We are repeating the same dialog for the n-th time:
>
>"The WG has decided the UA must represent a user's preference. A
>default is not a preference. Let's ignore that user agent"
>
>versus
>
>"The protocol does not tell you whether a signal was sent as a
>result of a user preference, but you can trigger an exception or not
>respond at all. Because there will be any number of user agents and
>options. In case you refuse the header, you can't claim compliance"
>
>Can we go beyond that and start brainstorming again? I'm conscious
>about the potential loss of revenue. There must be a more
>intelligent way out than just claim "bad user agent".
>
>Rigo
>
>
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